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Reply #180 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 6:31pm
 
Bam wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 6:16pm:
Grendel wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 1:25pm:
Bam wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:47am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:08am:
Bam wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:06am:
They come here because they know they can get illegal work on our farms and in many other businesses, no questions asked.

So then they are NOT legitimate asylum seekers???

Some are, some are not. It's why we need to process them - to weed out the greedy from among the persecuted. 
We do then the pc brigade and their lawyers overturn the initial assessment which are in most cases valid.


We shouldn't penalise them though; they are the victims, not the criminals.
Really, and the country shoppers, and people smugglers and their families and economic refugees etc, etc...
The real criminals are the people smugglers and Australian businesses that employ people who do not have the legal right to work in Australia.
Not the war criminals and the rest I previously mentioned?
Smashing the people smugglers' business model does nothing if we do not also pursue the crooked Australian businesses with equal vigour and harsh penalties. 
Do you honestly think considering most illegals end up on long term welfare that business is actually a large contributor to the problem?




Can you stop your silly
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? It's lazy and makes it harder to respond to your points. Use quote tags, it's what they are for.

Your remarks about lawyers overturning the assessment is hypothetical nonsense, unless you can prove that every one of the assessments has been overturned in this manner. Which you can't because it's false. I could also point out people who have been detained indefinitely after an adverse security assessment, but who have not been deported.

Yes, the asylum seekers, refugees, etc are victims. Victims of the people smugglers, taking their money, lying to them, and setting them adrift on leaky boats. I would rather save my ire for the people smugglers. I would rather bring people smugglers to justice than persecute their victims.

I said nothing about war criminals. For good reason, it is a silly argument. We also have war criminals arriving by plane with proper travel papers. Do we denigrate everyone arriving by plane?

Did I say businesses were a "large contributor to the problem"? No, I did not. Did I say that businesses illegally employed asylum seekers? No, I did not. Both are straw man arguments. But let me tell you something. When you've got the Weekly Times and the Herald Sun running articles this week on several farms in Victoria where illegal labour is employed, you know there's a problem because these papers do not generally denigrate businesses or farmers.

Also, your assertion that "most illegals end up on long term welfare" would be better for proof. (They are not "illegals" by the way, that's Orwellian Coalition nonsense.)



You are quite correct, of course: they are not "illegals".

However, these racists (ironically) spend more time watching American TV than they do watching local news. Thus, it's quite reasonable to expect them to use nonsensical terms designed to demonise people, who break no laws whatsoever, in order to help justify their irrational bigotry and hatred.
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Reply #181 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 6:57pm
 
Game set and match as far as I can see.
Save your concerns for the real refugees stuck in camps waiting to do the right thing.
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Reply #182 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:03pm
 
*I wonder how many posts are waiting in the queue for the smacking page to smacking flip*
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Reply #183 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:04pm
 
Illegal immigrant dole bludging country shoppers is the correct terminology for those who are not handwringing limp wristed bedwetters.

The majority believe in calling a spade a spade.
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Reply #184 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:11pm
 
miketrees wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 6:57pm:
Game set and match as far as I can see.
Save your concerns for the real refugees stuck in camps waiting to do the right thing.



'Asylum seekers'

'Refugees'

Two different things.

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Reply #185 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm
 
One issue of overstaying that I don't think has been considered here is the trafficking of (mainly Asian women) into the Australian sex industry.

Organised crime gangs in many parts of Asia (including China), fly these women in to work in brothels. Their IDs can be genuine, but also using stolen or forged passports.

Once here their handlers confiscate their papers and set them to work in brothels.

This form of illegal immigration and slavery is happening throughout Australia in all major cities.

Of course, they arrive by plane (with fake passport and papers in hand) so... no problems!!!

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Reply #186 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:13pm
 
jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:04pm:
Illegal immigrant dole bludging country shoppers is the correct terminology for those who are not handwringing limp wristed bedwetters.

The majority believe in calling a spade a spade.



Asylum seekers in boats are neither immigrants, nor illegal.

Thanks for playing though.

Keep digging that hole with your ... ahem ... spade.



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Reply #187 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:13pm
 
jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:04pm:
Illegal immigrant dole bludging country shoppers is the correct terminology for those who are not handwringing limp wristed bedwetters.

The majority believe in calling a spade a spade.


how do you know they are limp wristed? did you try one? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #188 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:18pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:13pm:
jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:04pm:
Illegal immigrant dole bludging country shoppers is the correct terminology for those who are not handwringing limp wristed bedwetters.

The majority believe in calling a spade a spade.


how do you know they are limp wristed? did you try one? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



One?


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Reply #189 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:20pm
 
Speaking of handwringing limp wristed bedwetters, I didn't even have to say it three times before they appeared.
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Reply #190 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:22pm
 
jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
Speaking of handwringing limp wristed bedwetters, I didn't even have to say it three times before they appeared.


3 times and you'd already blown your load .... what are you 13?
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Reply #191 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:23pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm:
One issue of overstaying that I don't think has been considered here is the trafficking of (mainly Asian women) into the Australian sex industry.

Organised crime gangs in many parts of Asia (including China), fly these women in to work in brothels. Their IDs can be genuine, but also using stolen or forged passports.

Once here their handlers confiscate their papers and set them to work in brothels.

This form of illegal immigration and slavery is happening throughout Australia in all major cities.

Of course, they arrive by plane (with fake passport and papers in hand) so... no problems!!!


BTW, if we could count illegal immigrants flown here to work in the sex industry as slaves... I don't think we'd be crowing about one hundred days without illegal immigrants arriving... Maybe we could count a week or so...  If all the traffickers took some annual leave at the same time, that is!
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Reply #192 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:24pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:22pm:
jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
Speaking of handwringing limp wristed bedwetters, I didn't even have to say it three times before they appeared.


3 times and you'd already blown your load .... what are you 13?

Your come back says more about your age than anything else.

If you want my come back you'll have to lick it off your mother.
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Reply #193 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:25pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:22pm:
jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
Speaking of handwringing limp wristed bedwetters, I didn't even have to say it three times before they appeared.


3 times and you'd already blown your load .... what are you 13?



13?

You're being very generous today.

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Reply #194 - Mar 30th, 2014 at 7:25pm
 
miketrees wrote on Mar 30th, 2014 at 6:57pm:
Game set and match as far as I can see.
Save your concerns for the real refugees stuck in camps waiting to do the right thing.

Yes the ones in the QUEUE... some fail to recognise.  Cheesy
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