Grendel wrote on Mar 30
th, 2014 at 1:25pm:
Bam wrote on Mar 30
th, 2014 at 7:47am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 30
th, 2014 at 7:08am:
Bam wrote on Mar 30
th, 2014 at 7:06am:
They come here because they know they can get illegal work on our farms and in many other businesses, no questions asked.
So then they are NOT legitimate asylum seekers???
Some are, some are not. It's why we need to process them - to weed out the greedy from among the persecuted.
We do then the pc brigade and their lawyers overturn the initial assessment which are in most cases valid.
We shouldn't penalise them though; they are the victims, not the criminals.
Really, and the country shoppers, and people smugglers and their families and economic refugees etc, etc...
The real criminals are the people smugglers and Australian businesses that employ people who do not have the legal right to work in Australia.
Not the war criminals and the rest I previously mentioned?
Smashing the people smugglers' business model does nothing if we do not also pursue the crooked Australian businesses with equal vigour and harsh penalties.
Do you honestly think considering most illegals end up on long term welfare that business is actually a large contributor to the problem?
Can you stop your silly
color highlighting
? It's lazy and makes it harder to respond to your points. Use quote tags, it's what they are for.
NO...
Your remarks about lawyers overturning the assessment is hypothetical nonsense, unless you can prove that every one of the assessments has been overturned in this manner.
Rubbish and not what I said is it....
Which you can't because it's false.
Do you not know the people behind overturning department decisions are both? Why don't you?
I could also point out people who have been
detained indefinitely after an adverse security assessment, but who have not been deported.
Could that be because they have no real identification papers ?
Yes, the asylum seekers, refugees, etc are victims. Victims of the people smugglers, taking their money,
they pay them their money.... they pay for criminals to do criminal acts on their behalf
lying to them, and setting them adrift on leaky boats. I would rather save my ire for the people smugglers. I would rather bring people smugglers to justice than persecute their victims.
Your naivete is showing.
I said nothing about war criminals. For good reason, it is a silly argument.
We have had ME people come by boat who have been wanted in their country for being part of the military that oppressed the population. We have for instance brothers from iraq who murdered a police officer stabbing him brutally and fatally and cutting off his nose.
We also have war criminals arriving by plane with proper travel papers. Do we denigrate everyone arriving by plane?
I don't do you? what I do do is realise that not everyone coming here and claiming asylum should be granted it.
Did I say businesses were a "large contributor to the problem"? No, I did not. Did I say that businesses illegally employed asylum seekers? No, I did not. Both are straw man arguments.
But let me tell you something. When you've got the Weekly Times and the Herald Sun running articles this week on several farms in Victoria where illegal labour is employed, you know there's a problem because these papers do not generally denigrate businesses or farmers.
Also, your assertion that "most illegals end up on long term welfare" would be better for proof. (They are not "illegals" by the way, that's Orwellian Coalition nonsense.)
No your denial is nonsense... Most end up 5 years or more on welfare... FACT.
Now I suggest you don't be lazy and EDUCATE yourself.
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