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Reply #210 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:44pm

BAM...

The real criminals are the people smugglers and Australian businesses that employ people who do not have the legal right to work in Australia.

BAM...
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Did I say businesses were a "large contributor to the problem"? No, I did not. Did I say that businesses illegally employed asylum seekers? No, I did not.

Honestly.... not honesty eh. Keep squirming.

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Reply #211 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:26pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:25pm:

miketrees wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 6:57pm:

Game set and match as far as I can see.
Save your concerns for the real refugees stuck in camps waiting to do the right thing.

Yes the ones in the QUEUE... some fail to recognise. Cheesy

"queue"

No need to compound your stupidity Gregg... Roll Eyes

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137762 Gender:	Re: 100 days without illegals Reply #212 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:48pm jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:27pm: You need to open both eyes to see it. There's no queue. You, just like True Blue, are a liar. So long, liar
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Reply #213 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:50pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

We have a Government that has demonised asylum seekers by identifying them as illegals and undesirables to justify the inhumane treatment we are applying to them!!!

We have a Government that is refusing to disclose what is happening to these people with no accountability or scrutiny disguised under the banner of operational security!!!

We have a Government that is placing these people in inhumane camps with no plan for their future and no consideration for their long term resettlement!!!

We have a Government that has overseen riots and a murder in detention that is refusing to answer questions or hold an independent inquiry to establish the truth and bring those responsible to account!!!

We have a Government that is ignoring accusations of torture and abuse by our military and brushing them off as lies without establishing if there is and validity to these alleged crimes!!!

We have a Government that is turning asylum seekers back to a country that is not a signatory to the refugee convention with little regard to their welfare or legitimate claim to seek asylum!!!

We have a Government that is ignoring a long held convention introduced to protect people fleeing persecution to countries who have agreed to assess their claims to asylum and respect their human rights!!!

After WW11 the world vowed to never let this happen again...It would appear we have regressed further than we thought under this Government!!!

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Boat people claiming to be asylum seekers employ criminal people smugglers and partake willingly in their criminal acts aiding and abetting them.. fact...
They have failed the character test.

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Reply #214 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:51pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

We have a Government that has demonised asylum seekers by identifying them as illegals and undesirables to justify the inhumane treatment we are applying to them!!!

We have a Government that is refusing to disclose what is happening to these people with no accountability or scrutiny disguised under the banner of operational security!!!

We have a Government that is placing these people in inhumane camps with no plan for their future and no consideration for their long term resettlement!!!

We have a Government that has overseen riots and a murder in detention that is refusing to answer questions or hold an independent inquiry to establish the truth and bring those responsible to account!!!

We have a Government that is ignoring accusations of torture and abuse by our military and brushing them off as lies without establishing if there is and validity to these alleged crimes!!!

We have a Government that is turning asylum seekers back to a country that is not a signatory to the refugee convention with little regard to their welfare or legitimate claim to seek asylum!!!

We have a Government that is ignoring a long held convention introduced to protect people fleeing persecution to countries who have agreed to assess their claims to asylum and respect their human rights!!!

After WW11 the world vowed to never let this happen again...It would appear we have regressed further than we thought under this Government!!!

Smiley

The only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it.
John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873), On Liberty, 1859

Boat people claiming to be asylum seekers employ criminal people smugglers and partake willingly in their criminal acts aiding and abetting them.. fact...
They have failed the character test.

They are asylum seekers.

The word you're looking for is 'refugees'.

Better luck next time Wink

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jiminy cricket Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 81 Gender:	Re: 100 days without illegals Reply #215 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:55pm I thought we had settled on illegal immigrant dole bludging country shoppers? It's the only correct description. Please stick to it.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 100 days without illegals Reply #216 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:01pm 100 days without Muslims trying to sneak in through the back-door. Congratulations Abbott. And now Abbott has to follow in the footsteps of Germany's Angela Merkel who is advocating that any migrant who doesn't find a job within 3 months is returned to their country of origin.
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Reply #217 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:04pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

One issue of overstaying that I don't think has been considered here is the trafficking of (mainly Asian women) into the Australian sex industry.

Organised crime gangs in many parts of Asia (including China), fly these women in to work in brothels. Their IDs can be genuine, but also using stolen or forged passports.

Once here their handlers confiscate their papers and set them to work in brothels.

This form of illegal immigration and slavery is happening throughout Australia in all major cities.

Of course, they arrive by plane (with fake passport and papers in hand) so... no problems!!!

Excellent point.

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Reply #218 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:06pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:01pm:

100 days without Muslims trying to sneak in through the back-door.

The planes haven't stopped, though.

Why is it that you support them sneaking in through the front door?

(I always took you for a back door sort of guy).

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/illegal-immigrants-arrive-by-plane/story-e6fr...

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Reply #219 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:07pm

rabbitoh08 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:04pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

One issue of overstaying that I don't think has been considered here is the trafficking of (mainly Asian women) into the Australian sex industry.

Organised crime gangs in many parts of Asia (including China), fly these women in to work in brothels. Their IDs can be genuine, but also using stolen or forged passports.

Once here their handlers confiscate their papers and set them to work in brothels.

This form of illegal immigration and slavery is happening throughout Australia in all major cities.

Of course, they arrive by plane (with fake passport and papers in hand) so... no problems!!!

Excellent point.

I don't think the brothel industry has the capacity to take up the 50000 the ALP brought in by boat, and I'm not sure that Gregawwy would be able to provide for all the men even if he wanted to take advantage of their services.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40754 Gender:	Re: 100 days without illegals Reply #220 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:08pm jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:55pm: I thought we had settled on illegal immigrant dole bludging country shoppers? It's the only correct description. Please stick to it. it's us a bit wordy. Can we just use "illegals" ? Everyone knows who we mean.
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Reply #221 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:09pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:08pm:

jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

I thought we had settled on illegal immigrant dole bludging country shoppers?

It's the only correct description. Please stick to it.

it's us a bit wordy.

Can we just use "illegals" ? Everyone knows who we mean.

Yes, people coming by plane.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/illegal-immigrants-arrive-by-plane/story-e6fr...

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: 100 days without illegals Reply #222 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:10pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:08pm: Can we just use "illegals" ? Everyone knows who we mean. Yeah why not. I heard someone say we have the right to be bigoted now, so go ahead.
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Reply #223 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:12pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:01pm:

100 days without Muslims trying to sneak in through the back-door.

Congratulations Abbott.

Wrong. They are still trying to sneak through the back door.

The boats are still coming.
They have not stopped.
They are being turned back
Or sinking. We don't know.
But they are still coming.
That is why the government has been buying orange lifeboats
The boats are still coming

All that has happened is that the government has stopped telling you about it

And all this fake concern about people dying at sea is shown to be a crock. It was just racists who don't want asylum seekers in Australia

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Reply #224 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:12pm

Stratos wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:10pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 8:08pm:

Can we just use "illegals" ? Everyone knows who we mean.

Yeah why not. I heard someone say we have the right to be bigoted now, so go ahead.

Yes, but what about the right to be an ignoramus, who has absolutely no idea how to use the English language? Undecided