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Re: 100 days without illegals
Reply #285 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:22pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:50pm:

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... people tell us they were just seeking better lives," he said.

Seeking better lives.

What monsters these people are.

yes, they should be making better lives in their own countries. Cheesy

Well they certainly aren't refugees from a worn torn country that's for sure. Just middle class indo's looking for better education and welfare because they couldn't be bothered fixing their own country.

I wouldn't call them monsters , just exploiters of Australians.

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Reply #286 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:24pm

My original post never appeared. I'll try again.

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:50pm:

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... people tell us they were just seeking better lives," he said.

Seeking better lives.

What monsters these people are.

yes, they should be making better lives in their own countries. Cheesy

Well they certainly aren't refugees from a worn torn country that's for sure. Just middle class indo's looking for better education and welfare because they couldn't be bothered fixing their own country.

I wouldn't call them monsters , just exploiters of Australians.

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Reply #287 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:25pm

Mattywisk wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:50pm:

Quote:

... people tell us they were just seeking better lives," he said.

Seeking better lives.

What monsters these people are.

yes, they should be making better lives in their own countries. Cheesy

Well they certainly aren't refugees from a worn war-torn country that's for sure. Just middle class indo's looking for better education and welfare because they couldn't be bothered fixing their own country.

I wouldn't call them monsters , just exploiters of Australians.

One doesn't have to be from a war-torn country in order to be an asylum seeker.

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Re: 100 days without illegals
Reply #288 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:26pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:50pm:

Quote:

... people tell us they were just seeking better lives," he said.

Seeking better lives.

What monsters these people are.

yes, they should be making better lives in their own countries. Cheesy

Well they certainly aren't refugees from a worn torn country that's for sure. Just middle class indo's looking for better education and welfare because they couldn't be bothered fixing their own country.

I wouldn't call them monsters , just exploiters of Australians.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137833 Gender:	Re: 100 days without illegals Reply #289 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:27pm
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Reply #290 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:27pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

You have to wonder why so many decide to go back home if conditions are so bad rather than wait it out in the safety of detention.

I kept watching until about the six minute mark. The first thing to note is that contrary to Abbott's claims, the boats have not been stopped.

What was the date of that story, Grendel?

31/07/2012

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Reply #292 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:31pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:50pm:

Quote:

... people tell us they were just seeking better lives," he said.

Seeking better lives.

What monsters these people are.

yes, they should be making better lives in their own countries. Cheesy

Well they certainly aren't refugees from a worn torn country that's for sure. Just middle class indo's looking for better education and welfare because they couldn't be bothered fixing their own country.

I wouldn't call them monsters , just exploiters of Australians.

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Reply #293 - Mar 31^st, 2014 at 5:39am

We all know that Illegal immigrants can't get any government benefits be it centrelink benefits, medicare benefits, tax file numbers.

So how does this work that I have highlighted?

jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Illegal immigrant dole bludging country shoppers is the correct terminology for those who are not handwringing limp wristed bedwetters.

The majority believe in calling a spade a spade.

Also if they do get centrelink benefits how do they prove who they are without and ID? How do they get a bank account to get their benefits paid into without papers?

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Re: 100 days without illegals
Reply #294 - Mar 31^st, 2014 at 8:06am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:42pm:

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Interviews conducted on Australian shores with Sri Lankan asylum seekers in 2012 confirmed that most had left for economic reasons, disqualifying them from protection under international conventions.

There is a doco on youtube in which sri lankan "asylum seekers" admit they are coming here for employment. They think we have lots of employment opportunities for them and lots of money to pay them.

Don't have time to look for it again... one of you LW patsies can look for it. Educate yourselves.

I would say that there are some asylum seekers who are coming to Australia as economic migrants.....That is why their claims are assessed and those who are not valid refugees are sent home.....What is wrong with this process that has been happening in Australia for many decades???

Huh

Then you are unaware that many have had their initial assessments overturned then? As much as 80%.

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Re: 100 days without illegals
Reply #295 - Mar 31^st, 2014 at 8:17am

John S wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 5:39am:

We all know that Illegal immigrants can't get any government benefits be it centrelink benefits, medicare benefits, tax file numbers.

So how does this work that I have highlighted?

jiminy cricket wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Illegal immigrant dole bludging country shoppers is the correct terminology for those who are not handwringing limp wristed bedwetters.

The majority believe in calling a spade a spade.

Also if they do get centrelink benefits how do they prove who they are without and ID? How do they get a bank account to get their benefits paid into without papers?

Asylum seekers are cared for in detention... provided housing, food medical etc. They are also allowed a DHS benefit. Those in community detention are also provided much.
Refugees are provided Newstart and rental assistance without a waiting period. Just for starters.

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_L...

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: 100 days without illegals Reply #296 - Mar 31^st, 2014 at 8:19am Might look for the other youtube I mentioned earlier if I get time. Those calling me a liar etc... can apologise if they have it in them, right now, as I proved my point already.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137833 Gender:	Re: 100 days without illegals Reply #297 - Mar 31^st, 2014 at 8:21am Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 8:19am: Might look for the other youtube I mentioned earlier if I get time. Those calling me a liar etc... can apologise if they have it in them, right now, as I proved my point already. You've proved that you're a liar. That's all.
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Re: 100 days without illegals
Reply #298 - Mar 31^st, 2014 at 8:23am

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 8:17am:

Refugees are provided Newstart and rental assistance without a waiting period.

Yes.

"This is in recognition of the special circumstances under which people in these categories have come to have permanent residency in Australia—that is, as refugees with no other means of financial support."

How is that a bad thing?

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Re: 100 days without illegals
Reply #299 - Mar 31^st, 2014 at 8:34am

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 8:17am:

Asylum seekers are cared for in detention... provided housing, food medical etc

I'm not sure cared for is the right terminology. Every report into conditions at detention centers has been extremely negative (except for Julie Bishop's one, where she didn't actually visit any asylum seekers and just inspected the worker's area).

This goes for both current and former governments.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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