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CFMEU fined $1.25m for defying Court
Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:33pm
 
A construction union will be fined more than $1 million for illegal blockades at building sites which choked inner Melbourne.

The Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU) is set to be fined $1.25 million and ordered to pay costs for ignoring court orders by blockading the sites.

The union and its members defied a court order to block Grocon workers entering the Emporium site in August 2012 for four days, blocking early morning traffic in the part of the CBD.

On one day some unionists clashed with riot police as up to 1000 people gathered outside the site.

They also prevented vehicle access at a site in Footscray in September 2012 and another in Collins Street in Melbourne in April 2013.

Victorian Supreme Court Justice Anthony Cavanough said on Monday he intended to impose the fines and will return at 4pm to formalise his orders.

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Reply #1 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:34pm
 
When will you reign in these militant unions, Electricity Bill? When?
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Reply #2 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:41pm
 

It seems unjust that the 'rank and file' of the unions effectively pay these fines.

Only the union bosses that order a contravention of the laws should be held personally responsible.
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Reply #3 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:46pm
 
When will you have a royal commission these shonky companies Tony

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SIX months after a tragic wall collapse killed three people, there are still no answers on the tragedy.

Four separate organisations have failed to return public reports on the March 28 incident.

WorkSafe, Grocon, Victoria Police and the Coroner’s office declined to release any details of their investigations this week.

But Grocon revealed that it was planning to build a memorial for the victims - Bridget and Alexander Jones and Dr Marie-Faith Fiawoo - on the vacant Swanston St site, which is to become an apartment and retail complex.

WorkSafe spokesman Peter Flaherty was unable to give a deadline for the agency’s report.

“This comprehensive investigation is ongoing, but given the complexity of the task, it remains in its relatively early stages and will take some time to complete,” he said.

The 19-year-old Jones twins and Dr Fiawoo, 33, were walking along Swanston St when a brick wall, which had a wooden hoarding bolted to its facade, collapsed in 102km/h wind.

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Ms Jones, who had been sheltered by her brother, was rescued but later died in hospital.

Mr Jones and Dr Fiawoo, a French national who had been working at Monash University, died at the scene.

Investigations were expected to focus on the condition of the red brick wall and why a wooden hoarding was bolted to its facade.

The Herald Sun revealed in April that there were significant cracks in the base of the brick wall at least four months before it fell.

The City of Melbourne also confirmed that Grocon did not have a permit to attach a wooden hoarding to the wall.

The hoarding, which was higher than the brick wall, may have increased the load on the wall beyond its design and acted as a sail during its collapse.

Grocon spokesman Mike Zorbas said it was too early to comment on its investigations.

“We have been working with the relevant authorities in relation to their formal inquiries into the matter. This has included the Coroner, the police and WorkSafe,” he said.

“We have begun to make arrangements for an appropriate memorial on the site.”

Victoria Police confirmed its investigations were continuing.

Criminal charges could be laid over the incident, which could delay the probes further.

Sheree Argento, a spokeswoman for the Coroner’s Court of Victoria, said Judge Ian Gray would seek an update from the investigating police member before fixing the next hearing date.

“As indicated in the mention hearing held earlier this year, His Honour is concerned about controlling any unnecessary delays in relation to this investigation and will seek to proceed with this matter as soon as practicable,” she said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/still-no-answers-on-swanston-st-wall-c...


3 innocent people walking along a street DEAD
Surely this requires a Royal Commission Tony??

But no we'll fine the Union for bringing to light safety concerns & then get rid of those concerns by simply calling the regulations RED TAPE & scrapping them.

Think how much profits will increase if we don't have safe work places or nosey people talking about death & injury at work.

Given up your penalties yet Teaspoon?
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Reply #4 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 1:03pm
 
Comrade Imcrookonit should have been onto this one before now.... Grin

I suppose the "Right click" doesn't work on his puter..... Cheesy   Grin  Cheesy
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Reply #5 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 1:18pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:34pm:
When will you reign in these militant unions, Electricity Bill? When?


Hopefully never.

They are more necessary now than at any time since WW2.
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Reply #6 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 1:49pm
 
Kat wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 1:18pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:34pm:
When will you reign in these militant unions, Electricity Bill? When?


Hopefully never.

They are more necessary now than at any time since WW2.


For what? Paying fines? A novel way of paying off Labor's debt!
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Reply #7 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 2:00pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:34pm:
When will you reign in these militant unions, Electricity Bill? When?



ahhmmm, not sure if you noticed .. and i do understand the confusion, but Abbott is PM not Shorten

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Reply #8 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 2:10pm
 
C'mon Teaspoon, surely you agree these innocents death should be subject to the same IF NOT MORE scrutiny as the insulation ones.
More because these poor souls weren't being paid they were just walking down a street.

Wind has been blamed, 102klm p/hour hardly cyclone strength in fact just a strong gust would be an apt description.

Who approved the materials?
Who approved the contractor?
Who signed off once completed?
Who chose the tender & on what basis?
Who gave the OK for illegal signage?

Never mind all that though your here to crow that the union who represents the workers within this dangerous & obviously sub standard work sight had the gale to point out these faults & now has been fined.
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Reply #9 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 2:58pm
 
The  Holy Court says t' turn yer cashflow into fines... I says turn yer cashflow into armour to overturn the Holy Court.

What a complete pack of nonsense that a court will intervene to stop a legitimate refusal to work.

Could anyone cite the genuine harm a blockade did - other than to the pockets of the company that refused to negotiate or take positive action?  When the 'courts' view themselves as part of an entrenched body politic based exclusively on the 'better classes' - it is time for someone to say this is indeed a class war.

Tell 'em to get nicked!

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Cruiser, by Mike Carlton (HMAS Perth) - page 101, (published) William Heinemann, 2011.

"The thrill of going ashore (at Kingston, Jamaica, in 1939) for the first time was dampened a little by the end result of a public hanging.  Three black men hung from a gibbet behind the warehouse.  They carried a placard condemning them as revolutionaries.  We found out they had been the ringleaders of a tram strike three weeks before."


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Reply #10 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 2:10pm:
C'mon Teaspoon, surely you agree these innocents death should be subject to the same IF NOT MORE scrutiny as the insulation ones.
More because these poor souls weren't being paid they were just walking down a street.

Wind has been blamed, 102klm p/hour hardly cyclone strength in fact just a strong gust would be an apt description.

Who approved the materials?
Who approved the contractor?
Who signed off once completed?
Who chose the tender & on what basis?
Who gave the OK for illegal signage?

Never mind all that though your here to crow that the union who represents the workers within this dangerous & obviously sub standard work sight had the gale to point out these faults & now has been fined.




so why did the unions allow them to work on a dangerous site...

a gust of wind........is that written in any contract do you know???...

most construction work is undertaken at local govt level...

what about the child killed by the falling tree at school...will we have a Rayal into that as well??..

like who planted the tree .... right there of all places...... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

if you want a royal into every accident...the country will come to a stand still...

to my knowledge the families of those killed by the wall...know that gale force wind caused the wall to fall....in hindsight should it have been there??????....who can really answer that....its like the tree... a tragic accident and to make political points out of something no one could really foresee is pretty crap.

if a family member wanted more answers I am sure an investigation would or could take place........if it already hasnt.

as it did with the pinkbatts.. but really didnt come up with the real answers......who really was responsible..and could!

at least 3 deaths have been prevented????....

if there were 4 walls all the same and one was blown down killing 3 people... and the other walls remained until they were blown down killing more people....I would definitely agree a Royal is needed..
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Reply #11 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:04pm
 
It seems the only commissions our 'governments' are interested in are either the ryall (thet thar be Ay-rab coinage) commissions or the Dorothy Dixers...
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Reply #12 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 4:03pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm:
so why did the unions allow them to work on a dangerous site...



So now you support union boycotts & lock outs???

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm:
a gust of wind........is that written in any contract do you know???...



What does that mean????
Are you now saying once wind reaches a certain speed work should be stopped?

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm:
most construction work is undertaken at local govt level...


Most workplace safety regulations are State government level, hasn't stopped the PBRC, in fact you've been the biggest cheerleader, why all of a sudden the respect for chain of command???

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm:
what about the child killed by the falling tree at school...will we have a Rayal into that as well??..


Why not?
You seem to need to blame someone for everything, who's knows maybe the tree was a gift from the Labor party.

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm:
to my knowledge the families of those killed by the wall...know that gale force wind caused the wall to fall....in hindsight should it have been there??????....who can really answer that....its like the tree... a tragic accident and to make political points out of something no one could really foresee is pretty crap.



With not even the slightest blush Shocked

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm:
if a family member wanted more answers I am sure an investigation would or could take place........if it already hasnt.



6 inquiries into PB aren't enough, you must keep inquiring until you get the answers you want.

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm:
as it did with the pinkbatts.. but really didnt come up with the real answers......who really was responsible..and could!



Yes they did just not the answers Tony can accept.

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm:
at least 3 deaths have been prevented????....



How? & how does one arrive at that number?

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:01pm:
if there were 4 walls all the same and one was blown down killing 3 people... and the other walls remained until they were blown down killing more people....I would definitely agree a Royal is needed..


So its ok to kill 3 people in 1 go as long as you stop there?
What if the wall killed 25, fell on a school bus stop at 8.30am, would it be OK because it only happened once?
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:34pm:
When will you reign in these militant unions, Electricity Bill? When?


Once Abbott reins in the militant corporations maybe?
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Reply #14 - Mar 31st, 2014 at 4:09pm
 
Frances wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 4:08pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:34pm:
When will you reign in these militant unions, Electricity Bill? When?


Once Abbott reins in the militant corporations maybe?


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