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Apr 1st, 2014 at 6:48am
 
REFUGEES and other visa-holders face a tougher character test to stay in Australia after authorities were left struggling to remove a refugee convicted of child sex offences and accused of trying to kidnap a four-year-old girl. 
 
The attempted kidnap charge against the Afghan man was dropped after a magistrate found that the “cultural differences” in his case could be a mitigating factor.

That decision and the fact that Ali Jaffari, 35, was only given a two-year community corrections order for indecent assault involving two boys, aged 12 and 13, means that the government is struggling to deport him.

This is despite the fact that he has also been listed on a sex offenders’ register.

The current character test requires a “substantial criminal record” including at least a 12-month jail term.

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison last night vowed to toughen up visa cancellation powers amid concerns the current law failed to protect the community enough.

Mr Jaffari was awarded a permanent protection visa in early 2012 by the Gillard government upon arriving by boat.

He was convicted last August of charges of indecently assaulting and attempted indecent assault of children under the age of 16 relating to the incident involving the two boys at a

Geelong beach.  Witnesses to the November 2012 incident claimed Jaffari started grabbing and rubbing himself against them, cuddling and kissing them on the neck and telling one of the boys that he was “sexy”.

One of the victims said Jaffari followed them to the showers, cornered them and asked if he “wanted company”.

Despite police prosecutors demanding he be sent to jail for the offences, Jaffari was placed on a two-year community corrections order with 300 hours unpaid community work.

He was also listed on a sex offenders’ register.

In February, Jaffari had a child-stealing charge dropped against him in the Geelong Magistrates Court after the magistrate said if he was hearing the matter, he would have reasonable doubt about his guilt, citing “cultural differences” as one mitigating factor.

The case related to the alleged attempt by Jaffari last year to lead a four-year-old girl away from a sports oval while her father and brother played cricket.

Given the problems in cancelling Jaffari’s visa due to a lack of a custodial sentence, the government is instead examining whether it could be cancelled under a provision relating to him representing a danger to the community.

Mr Morrison said the task of cancelling his visa had been made more difficult because Jaffari had not received a custodial sentence and him being on a permanent protection visa rather than a temporary one.

“Granting of a permanent visa reduces the flexibility and opportunity to deal with these types of matters and the government is now considering the case under the character provisions of the Act,” he said.

“I am taking a close look at the character provisions under the Act and whether they afford the government the sort of authorities that are needed to provide the protections to the Australian community that they would rightly expect to exist under their laws.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/tougher-character-tests-for-asylu...
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Reply #1 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 6:53am
 
This lowlife is exactly the reason why we should not ever again have onshore processing or community detention. Come to think of it, the Magistrate ought to be sacked as well, for finding that “cultural differences” in his case could be a mitigating factor. There is nothing at all that can justify this man attempting to abduct a four year-old girl and for grabbing and rubbing himself against two boys aged 12 and 13, cuddling and kissing them on the neck and telling one of the boys that he was “sexy”. Such a pity that Morrison cannot overrule such an appalling decision by the Magistrate and deport this piece of scum immediately. I wouldn't even wait for the plane to stop at the airport - just shove him out from 5,000ft with a parachute after having him chemically castrated! Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #2 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 6:56am
 
Cherry picking to support your case !
Is your position really that weak.



There again the cons are spending like drunken sailors on their concentration camps, where abbott murders the inmates.
So it's not a surprise you want a witch hunt.
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Reply #3 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:07am
 
You do realise your thread title has nothing to do with your actual article right?

In fact, statistically, those who are udnergoing processing within the community as asylum seekers, are far less likely than your everyday Australian to commit any form of crime, as reported in thsi article here

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/few-asylum-seekers-charged...

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Asylum seekers living in the community on bridging visas are about 45 times less likely to be charged with a crime than members of the general public.
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #4 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:08am
 
____ wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 6:56am:
Cherry picking to support your case !
Is your position really that weak.



There again the cons are spending like drunken sailors on their concentration camps, where abbott murders the inmates.
So it's not a surprise you want a witch hunt.


This isn't the ONLY case of male illegals who have been caught doing the wrong thing with women or children. Not surprised you'd defend the indefensible. You're simply pathetic, absolutely pathetic. Angry
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Reply #5 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:09am
 
More racist, xenophobic pro-Fascist spam, I see.
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Reply #6 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:10am
 
Stratos wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:07am:
You do realise your thread title has nothing to do with your actual article right?

In fact, statistically, those who are udnergoing processing within the community as asylum seekers, are far less likely than your everyday Australian to commit any form of crime, as reported in thsi article here

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/few-asylum-seekers-charged...

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Asylum seekers living in the community on bridging visas are about 45 times less likely to be charged with a crime than members of the general public.


Eugh! Another apologist!!!  Angry
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Reply #7 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:12am
 
Kat wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:09am:
More racist, xenophobic pro-Fascist spam, I see.


More misguided bleeding hearts!  Shocked
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Reply #8 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:13am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:08am:
____ wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 6:56am:
Cherry picking to support your case !
Is your position really that weak.



There again the cons are spending like drunken sailors on their concentration camps, where abbott murders the inmates.
So it's not a surprise you want a witch hunt.


This isn't the ONLY case of male illegals who have been caught doing the wrong thing with women or children. Not surprised you'd defend the indefensible. You're simply pathetic, absolutely pathetic. Angry



Your choice of words so to try an inflame are noted. You have no foundation for a case to stop onshore processing besides backing Abbott spending like a drunken sailor on attacking refugees.

Dehumanising was a tactic of the nazis too.
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Reply #9 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:18am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:10am:
Eugh! Another apologist!!! 


Oh my bad.  Here I was thinking you wanted to discuss an issue rather than just bash on people you discriminate against.

That's OK, feel free to ignore any and all facts in the future that may get in the way of your bigotry, apparently that's ok now
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #10 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:23am
 
A bit harsh to lump all asylum seekers in the same boat as sexual predators.....Many middle aged white men have committed crimes against children and you don't se anyone claiming all middle aged white men are paedophiles.....Pull your head in mate!!!

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Reply #11 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:24am
 
Onshore processing and community detention is the ONLY acceptable option.

Anything less is unacceptable and in-Australian.
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Reply #12 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:27am
 
Kat wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:24am:
Onshore processing and community detention is the ONLY acceptable option.


Fortunately, neither is happening and both have been proven to be ineffective in stopping the boats.  Smiley
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Reply #13 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:29am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:23am:
A bit harsh to lump all asylum seekers in the same boat as sexual predators.....Many middle aged white men have committed crimes against children and you don't se anyone claiming all middle aged white men are paedophiles.....Pull your head in mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am not saying they are all sexual predators. I'm saying, "why expose our women and children to the risk?". We don't know who these people are or what their history is because they destroy anything that can identify them. For all you know, one of the illegal immigrants sitting on Manus Island could be a serial killer.
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Reply #14 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:30am
 
Stratos wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:07am:
You do realise your thread title has nothing to do with your actual article right?

In fact, statistically, those who are udnergoing processing within the community as asylum seekers, are far less likely than your everyday Australian to commit any form of crime, as reported in thsi article here

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/few-asylum-seekers-charged...

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Asylum seekers living in the community on bridging visas are about 45 times less likely to be charged with a crime than members of the general public.

As the article said, less likely to be charged, in other words if the crime was committed by an Australian born then they would be more chance of them being charged mostly because the less chance of a conviction as the Asylum seeker can use cultural differences as an excuse which makes prosecution difficalt
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