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Reply #15 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:36am
 
Another problem our police face is the risk of being branded racist. Under Anti discrimination laws police risk facing charges them self for culturally offending migrants. So it makes sense to police to do nothing.
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Reply #16 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:38am
 
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:30am:
As the article said, less likely to be charged, in other words if the crime was committed by an Australian born then they would be more chance of them being charged mostly because the less chance of a conviction as the Asylum seeker can use cultural differences as an excuse which makes prosecution difficalt


Then no doubt you would also have the relevant statistics to back up your argument.

Also, no amount of cultural leniency could account for a massive 1:45 difference.
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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #17 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:42am
 
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:30am:
Stratos wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:07am:
You do realise your thread title has nothing to do with your actual article right?

In fact, statistically, those who are udnergoing processing within the community as asylum seekers, are far less likely than your everyday Australian to commit any form of crime, as reported in thsi article here

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/few-asylum-seekers-charged...

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Asylum seekers living in the community on bridging visas are about 45 times less likely to be charged with a crime than members of the general public.

As the article said, less likely to be charged, in other words if the crime was committed by an Australian born then they would be more chance of them being charged mostly because the less chance of a conviction as the Asylum seeker can use cultural differences as an excuse which makes prosecution difficalt


No culture on Earth can justify this creature's treatment of children, none.
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Reply #18 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:50am
 
Stratos wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:38am:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:30am:
As the article said, less likely to be charged, in other words if the crime was committed by an Australian born then they would be more chance of them being charged mostly because the less chance of a conviction as the Asylum seeker can use cultural differences as an excuse which makes prosecution difficalt


Then no doubt you would also have the relevant statistics to back up your argument.

Also, no amount of cultural leniency could account for a massive 1:45 difference.

You know fair well that there is no relevant statistics because many of ethic back grounds avoid being charged in the first place, this is why places in south western Sydney have escalated into a war zone.
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Reply #19 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:55am
 
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:50am:
You know fair well that there is no relevant statistics


That's funny, I found one, directly relating to the amount of asylum seekers in community detention and their crime rate, as was indicated by the title of the thread.

If your forgot, they commit crimes far less than the average Aussie.  If you want to be a bigot, feel free to ignore these statistics and be on your merry way
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #20 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:03am
 
Stratos wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:55am:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:50am:
You know fair well that there is no relevant statistics


That's funny, I found one, directly relating to the amount of asylum seekers in community detention and their crime rate, as was indicated by the title of the thread.

If your forgot, they commit crimes far less than the average Aussie.  If you want to be a bigot, feel free to ignore these statistics and be on your merry way


We have no idea who those people are. No idea if they have committed any offences in the past. The case referred to in the article makes me think this is not the first time that low-life has preyed on children prior to coming here, given that he did it more than once after arriving here. They should not be allowed to roam freely among us while their claims are being assessed.
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Reply #21 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:11am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:03am:
e have no idea who those people are. No idea if they have committed any offences in the past.


Wrong

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We will check the detainee's identity, health, character and any security concerns before deciding to transfer a detainee into community detention. Detainees who are considered to be a security risk, through the advice of security agencies, will not be transferred./


https://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/83acommunity-detention.htm#checks

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:03am:
The case referred to in the article makes me think this is not the first time that low-life has preyed on children prior to coming here, given that he did it more than once after arriving here. They should not be allowed to roam freely among us while their claims are being assessed.


This, given you have been shown that asylum seekers on bridging visas are far less likely to commit crimes than a native born Aussie, shows you just as a bigot. 

Are there people who do the wrong thing?  yes
should they be in the community?  no
Should we punish every asylum seeker because of the actions of a very small minority?  no
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #22 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:15am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:29am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:23am:
A bit harsh to lump all asylum seekers in the same boat as sexual predators.....Many middle aged white men have committed crimes against children and you don't se anyone claiming all middle aged white men are paedophiles.....Pull your head in mate!!!

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I am not saying they are all sexual predators. I'm saying, "why expose our women and children to the risk?". We don't know who these people are or what their history is because they destroy anything that can identify them. For all you know, one of the illegal immigrants sitting on Manus Island could be a serial killer.



There are no illegal immigrants on Manus Island.

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Reply #23 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:39am
 
Stratos wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:11am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:03am:
e have no idea who those people are. No idea if they have committed any offences in the past.


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We will check the detainee's identity, health, character and any security concerns before deciding to transfer a detainee into community detention. Detainees who are considered to be a security risk, through the advice of security agencies, will not be transferred./





So you believe everything the Abbott government says.....interesting.

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Reply #24 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:42am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 6:48am:
REFUGEES and other visa-holders face a tougher character test to stay in Australia after authorities were left struggling to remove a refugee convicted of child sex offences and accused of trying to kidnap a four-year-old girl. 
 
The attempted kidnap charge against the Afghan man was dropped after a magistrate found that the “cultural differences” in his case could be a mitigating factor.

That decision and the fact that Ali Jaffari, 35, was only given a two-year community corrections order for indecent assault involving two boys, aged 12 and 13, means that the government is struggling to deport him.

This is despite the fact that he has also been listed on a sex offenders’ register.

Mr Jaffari was awarded a permanent protection visa in early 2012 by the Gillard government upon arriving by boat.

He was convicted last August of charges of indecently assaulting and attempted indecent assault of children under the age of 16 relating to the incident involving the two boys at a

Geelong beach.  Witnesses to the November 2012 incident claimed Jaffari started grabbing and rubbing himself against them, cuddling and kissing them on the neck and telling one of the boys that he was “sexy”.

One of the victims said Jaffari followed them to the showers, cornered them and asked if he “wanted company”.

Despite police prosecutors demanding he be sent to jail for the offences, Jaffari was placed on a two-year community corrections order with 300 hours unpaid community work.

He was also listed on a sex offenders’ register.

In February, Jaffari had a child-stealing charge dropped against him in the Geelong Magistrates Court after the magistrate said if he was hearing the matter, he would have reasonable doubt about his guilt, citing “cultural differences” as one mitigating factor.

The case related to the alleged attempt by Jaffari last year to lead a four-year-old girl away from a sports oval while her father and brother played cricket.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/tougher-character-tests-for-asylu...


The leftists say we need some cultural enrichment, they have buzzwords like xenophobe to hurl at those who object to this cultural enrichment.

The exact opposite of a xenophobe is someone who promiscuously embraces foreign cultures while snobbishly rejecting their own home grown culture,since this guy claimed cultural differences as a defence we can see what type of cultural enrichment the leftists want to impose on us, it would be a form of cultural buggery.

If it was a catholic doing this the leftists would squeal like stuck pigs, it appears acceptable when done by people from other cultures, this is perfectly normal for Afghans
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Reply #25 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 9:04am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:15am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:29am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:23am:
A bit harsh to lump all asylum seekers in the same boat as sexual predators.....Many middle aged white men have committed crimes against children and you don't se anyone claiming all middle aged white men are paedophiles.....Pull your head in mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am not saying they are all sexual predators. I'm saying, "why expose our women and children to the risk?". We don't know who these people are or what their history is because they destroy anything that can identify them. For all you know, one of the illegal immigrants sitting on Manus Island could be a serial killer.



There are no illegal immigrants on Manus Island.




'ello, 'ello, 'ello, whassiz then?

End of taxpayer funded immigration advice to illegal boat arrivals saves $100 million


http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/sm/2014/sm213047.htm

Minister for Immigration and Border Protection. 'From today people who arrived illegally by boat, as well as illegally by air, will no longer receive taxpayer funded immigration advice and assistance under the Immigration Advice and Application Assistance Scheme (IAAAS). 'Access to any private and/or pro bono immigration advice by illegal boat or air arrivals will be facilitated by the Department of Immigration and Border Protection, with all costs to be met by the providers of these services.
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Reply #26 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 9:07am
 
from the sounds of it this guy should be sent back to whatever sh1thole he came from ... but I don't see what it has to do with onshore processing .... has Armpit sprained his last remaining brain cell again?
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #27 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 9:09am
 
Soren wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 9:04am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:15am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:29am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:23am:
A bit harsh to lump all asylum seekers in the same boat as sexual predators.....Many middle aged white men have committed crimes against children and you don't se anyone claiming all middle aged white men are paedophiles.....Pull your head in mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am not saying they are all sexual predators. I'm saying, "why expose our women and children to the risk?". We don't know who these people are or what their history is because they destroy anything that can identify them. For all you know, one of the illegal immigrants sitting on Manus Island could be a serial killer.



There are no illegal immigrants on Manus Island.




'ello, 'ello, 'ello, whassiz then?

End of taxpayer funded immigration advice to illegal boat arrivals saves $100 million


http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/sm/2014/sm213047.htm

Minister for Immigration and Border Protection. 'From today people who arrived illegally by boat, as well as illegally by air, will no longer receive taxpayer funded immigration advice and assistance under the Immigration Advice and Application Assistance Scheme (IAAAS). 'Access to any private and/or pro bono immigration advice by illegal boat or air arrivals will be facilitated by the Department of Immigration and Border Protection, with all costs to be met by the providers of these services.


they arrived ILLEGALLY by boat ... that does not make them ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #28 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 9:11am
 
Stratos wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:07am:
You do realise your thread title has nothing to do with your actual article right?

In fact, statistically, those who are udnergoing processing within the community as asylum seekers, are far less likely than your everyday Australian to commit any form of crime, as reported in thsi article here

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/few-asylum-seekers-charged...

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Asylum seekers living in the community on bridging visas are about 45 times less likely to be charged with a crime than members of the general public.

They never do.
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Reply #29 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 9:25am
 
Soren wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 9:04am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 8:15am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:29am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 7:23am:
A bit harsh to lump all asylum seekers in the same boat as sexual predators.....Many middle aged white men have committed crimes against children and you don't se anyone claiming all middle aged white men are paedophiles.....Pull your head in mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am not saying they are all sexual predators. I'm saying, "why expose our women and children to the risk?". We don't know who these people are or what their history is because they destroy anything that can identify them. For all you know, one of the illegal immigrants sitting on Manus Island could be a serial killer.



There are no illegal immigrants on Manus Island.




'ello, 'ello, 'ello, whassiz then?

End of taxpayer funded immigration advice to illegal boat arrivals saves $100 million


http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/sm/2014/sm213047.htm

Minister for Immigration and Border Protection. 'From today people who arrived illegally by boat, as well as illegally by air, will no longer receive taxpayer funded immigration advice and assistance under the Immigration Advice and Application Assistance Scheme (IAAAS). 'Access to any private and/or pro bono immigration advice by illegal boat or air arrivals will be facilitated by the Department of Immigration and Border Protection, with all costs to be met by the providers of these services.



You have absolutely no idea what an illegal immigrant is, do you?

There are no illegal immigrants on Manus Island.

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