greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1
st, 2014 at 11:34am:
There are some so gullible, that they believe Jesus Christ actually existed 2000 years ago.
Flavius Josephus (37AD – c. 100AD), a Romano-Jewish historian of priestly and royal ancestry recorded Jewish history, with special emphasis on the 1st century AD. In The Antiquities of the Jews, he wrote:
Quote:Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.
Tacitus, a Roman Historian (55AD -120AD. In his Annals he wrote of a fire that burned a large part of Rome:
Quote:Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.
Pliny the Elder, in correspondence with the Emperor Trajan, wrote:
Quote:They were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and bound themselves to a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft, adultery, never to falsify their word, not to deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up. When this was over, it was their custom to depart and to assemble again to partake of a meal–but ordinary and innocent food.
Lucian of Samosate (Born 115 AD), Greek satirist and lecturer wrote:
Quote:He was second only to that one whom they still worship today, the man in Palestine who was crucified because he brought this new form of initiation into the world. “Having convinced themselves that they are immortal and will live forever, the poor wretches despise death and most willingly give themselves to it. Moreover, that first lawgiver of theirs persuaded them that they are all brothers the moment they transgress and deny the Greek gods and begin worshiping that crucified sophist and living by his laws. “They scorn all possessions without distinction and treat them as community property. They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time.
Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus a Roman historian active around the beginning of the second century (he died in 130AD), in De Vita Caesarum wrote:
Quote:The emperor Claudius reigned 41 to 54 AD. Suetonius reports his dealings with the eastern Roman Empire, that is, with Greece and Macedonia, and with the Lycians, Rhodians, and Trojans. He then reports that the emperor expelled the Jews from Rome, since they “constantly made disturbances at the instigation of Christ” (Judaeos impulsore Chresto assidue tumultuantis Roma expulit). The name appears in manuscripts of Suetonius as Chrestus, a form also used by the Roman historian Tacitus to refer to Chrestiani.
none of whom were alive when Jesus was there .... some people today can't even get the true story re the carbon tax out and that was 2 yrs ago and we've hundreds of written records as proof... what hope have you of getting a true story out 50 yrs after the fact, especially in a time when most of the stories were passed down by word of mouth ? you ever played Chinese whispers?
by the way, I do believe that a 'man' called Jesus was crucified on the cross .... there are records of it happening ... my problem is that the Romans, the greatest record keepers of their era, only ever mentioned Jesus that one time ... no where else was he ever mentioned in any Roman records ..... surely if half the miracles attributed to him were true, the romans would have some records of it somewhere?? a man turns water to wine? walks on water? feeds hundreds with 3 fish? or any of the other wonders attributed to Jesus ..... there are a lot of records of less important more mundane things, why not any of the things he did at the time he did them?
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