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Re: How gullible are some people?
Reply #225 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:58pm

Quantum wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:39pm:

Good to see bobby has found a new boyfriend.

It is amazing how someone who talks about "reaming arses" whilst posting old artworks of people being tortured on spikes up the backend, would now complain about language. Especially when the only word I used was arse. This "foul" word is not even censored, yet poor bobby just can't deal with it.

Poor bobby.

It depends on the context & are you sure I did that?

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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: How gullible are some people? Reply #228 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 11:23pm Frances wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 2:40pm: I'm baking some ANZAC biscuits now..... Well said Frances! In fact, your statement is a rare glowing light, in an otherwise non event thread!
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Re: How gullible are some people?
Reply #229 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 5:28am

Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 5:07pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:54pm:

Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:43pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 12:55pm:

Quantum wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 11:33am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 9:24am:

rubbish ... the posts about Jesus in the beginning of the thread were clearly about Jesus from the bible ... What Greg and I both agree (it appears that way) on is that there is no evidence of the Jesus mentioned in the bible ... you want to start playing games and pretend you were talking about another Jesus go for it

by the way .... why use the moniker B&B?

Sock accusations now? Is that the best you got to deflect from the fact you have no bloody idea what you are talking about?

Greggery was the one who threw the baby out with the bathwater right at the start. He made the claim Jesus never existed. Yet all mainstream historians accept that the Jesus of the Bible was a real person, the only dispute is whether he did all the things the Bible says he did. Maybe if you took the time to read a bit of history you wouldn't have been so fast to jump on such an idiotic position as to say Jesus never existed.

This thread has shown that a few people are all talk and no knowledge. You, Spot, pecca, have all been so fast to mock others about historical issues that none of you realised just how much ignorance you were all displaying. Idiotic comments about there not being enough records or those that we do have being dated after the event are ignorant to the extreme. Your belief in Roman record keeping is itself apart of the very historical record that you mock when it is convenient. All people such as Alexander the Great, Alfred the Great, Galileo, Darwin, and any other name from history not only all have myth around them, but also have very few records of their existence from their own time. Even World War Two was not written about in any meaningful until after the war was finished. In fact the best works are being written this century as emotions cool and the missing pieces come to light. But I can just imagine people like you 1000 years from now saying "World War Two never happened. The history books you quote from were written years after the fact. We can't really know anything about that time. There was no Hitler!" An outrageous statement to anyone today, but no more different than the ignorance people like you display towards the events and people of the past.

If we are to dispute the myths then by your reasoning we must also dispute the existence of the very person. If the records we have post date the person then they to must be discarded. Anything else would be a total inconsistency and would turn history into nothing but personal belief without any framework. I think you would be shocked at just how few people from history measure up to your standards of proof if you took the same position with them that you are taking with Jesus.

Nope. No valid historian would claim that jesus existed. Some prolly will say that someone named jesus
*may* have existed to get religious nuts off their back but they wouldn't claim he existed as a fact because thats not what history is about. History is about facts.

Your idea of "mainstream"must be very strange . . .

SOB

You must be the class clown. Every forum has one or more and they are the people who are either deliberately stupid or bring a naturally acquired idiocy to the place.

More ad-hominem. Thats against the rules isnt it? I guess you disagree or something?

SOB

You spout complete untruths and appear incapable of even understanding why they are untruths. That is usually the sign of a troll or one lacking in the capacity to understand. Claiming that a vast majority of the world denies the existence of Jesus or that most of the world is Hindu are pretty epic failures.

Most of the world is not xtian. I find it hard to understand how you would think it is. I guess you just believe what you want to be true.

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Re: How gullible are some people?
Reply #230 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 7:40am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 9:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 9:49pm:

Quantum wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 12:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 12:04pm:

Quantum wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 12:01pm:

Some people are so gullible they believe Greggery does a real job for a living. In reality, his spends all his days writing trolling post on forums and reading Doctor Who books so as to leave his opinion on Amazon. That is of course when he is not begging people to let him do them up the arse.

How many Doctor Who books you up to now you tax dollar stealing bastard? 300? 350?

Nothing but Spot of Borg mark II.

I'll let the mods sort that one.

You work for the government yet all you do is post here all day and read Doctor Who books. As I said; tax dollar stealing bastard.

As for the begging up the arse, well you have claimed that is what you do with your women. They offer you pussy, you ask for arse.

If you put this information on the forum, don't complain to the mods when it gets quoted back at you.

How could such foul, disgusting language be used on Ozpolitic?

Jazza is a fraud.

She has no standards when it comes to language.

I reported the foul language.

She won't like that.

Poor Jazza (Quanty).

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Reply #231 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 8:38am

Quantum wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 9:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 7:29pm:

Quantum wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 1:31pm:

So you made a sock accusation on the fact that you can not read what is right in front of you

it wasn't in front of me ... thats the whole problem ... You said you made a claim in the beginning ... you made no such claim in the first two pages and I couldn't remember reading any such claim from you since .. I had a busy day .... if you think I was going to go and and re read every comment for 11 pages you are dreaming.

My comment is in fact from page 2.

So you were wrong that I didn't make the claim. I don't expect you to "re read every comment for 11 pages". But if you are going to accuse someone of using a sock it wouldn't hurt to check your facts, as opposed to just saying "I had a busy day" so I made false accusation and your dreaming if you think I would bother to make sure.

no need to cry about it .. i didn't recall you making any comment like that and when I had a look I didn't see it . you can just say you're not B&B instead of carrying on like a victim for 2 days

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Quantum wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 11:33am:

Greggery was the one who threw the baby out with the bathwater right at the start. He made the claim Jesus never existed. Yet all mainstream historians accept that the Jesus of the Bible was a real person

do they? I've actually spoken to a friend who is a historian about this, on many occassions, and this particular historian has a father who happens to be a biblical scholar back in Poland so he knows his subject matter, and even he disagrees ... I guess you are either lying when you say all historians agree or you made it up ...

Quantum wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 1:31pm:

History books record a Jesus of Nazareth

do they? or do history books simply record what the church has been telling us for the last 2000 odd years?

So you have taken the Spot line of reasoning (yes he tried something like this a couple of pages back) that historians are just keeping the Jesus lie going without checking their facts.

You spoke to a historian friend? Wow. I wonder if I was to say I have a historian friend (and I actually have a few) who says you are wrong, how much weight that would add to the conversation? Probably zero, which is how much the word of your friend carries on an Internet forum.

Actually it does add weight to the conversation ... you claim all historians agree ... they don't ... now sure, you can't verify what my friend said as you have no way to check, but instead of trying to verify what I say, you should concentrate on verifying what you say .... prove the existence of the biblical Jesus

by the way, trying to drag SOB and Greg into the debate to try and score some cheap points is in my opinion a clear sign of desperation ... you should address the actual points raised and leave the histerics for cods

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Re: How gullible are some people?
Reply #232 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 8:40am

Frances wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 7:43am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:37am:

in an actual debate ad-hominem isnt allowed

And, in actual debate, you're supposed to stick pretty much to the subject at hand, which in this thread concerns a relic purporting to be the Holy Grail, and the gullibility or otherwise of the people who believe the claim.

cods wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 7:40am:

cant you read...

its illegal to change the topic.

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Reply #235 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:36am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:02am:

Peccy, John Smith, and SOB haven't as yet refuted Frances post #96.

Post #96 doesn't prove the existence of JC.

It merely proves that a few people wrote about a character called JC.

There are many, many authors who have written about dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins. However, that doesn't mean that dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins actually exist.

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Reply #236 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:54am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:02am:

Peccy, John Smith, and SOB haven't as yet refuted Frances post #96.

Post #96 doesn't prove the existence of JC.

It merely proves that a few people wrote about a character called JC.

There are many, many authors who have written about dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins. However, that doesn't mean that dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins actually exist.

You need to explain why the sources aren't credible.

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Re: How gullible are some people?
Reply #237 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:56am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:02am:

Peccy, John Smith, and SOB haven't as yet refuted Frances post #96.

Post #96 doesn't prove the existence of JC.

It merely proves that a few people wrote about a character called JC.

There are many, many authors who have written about dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins. However, that doesn't mean that dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins actually exist.

You need to explain why the sources aren't credible.

I don't need to do anything.

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Reply #238 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:56am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:02am:

Peccy, John Smith, and SOB haven't as yet refuted Frances post #96.

Post #96 doesn't prove the existence of JC.

It merely proves that a few people wrote about a character called JC.

There are many, many authors who have written about dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins. However, that doesn't mean that dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins actually exist.

You need to explain why the sources aren't credible.

I don't need to do anything.

Yes you do. This is how critique works. If you dispute the credibility of the sources you need to state why. Your previous "explanation" would dismiss the credibility of all books, yet even that "explanation" doesn't suffice.

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Re: How gullible are some people?
Reply #239 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 10:01am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:56am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:02am:

Peccy, John Smith, and SOB haven't as yet refuted Frances post #96.

Post #96 doesn't prove the existence of JC.

It merely proves that a few people wrote about a character called JC.

There are many, many authors who have written about dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins. However, that doesn't mean that dragons, fairies, unicorns, and goblins actually exist.

You need to explain why the sources aren't credible.

I don't need to do anything.

Yes you do.

No, I don't.

The believers need to provide evidence that JC was a real person.

I'm still waiting.

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