Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 11:52am:


You worship all things Star Trek (yet know bugger all about the show) and have an obsession with cats. You combine these two addictions and have created cyborg cats from out of space.

You claim to be over 50 years old, worship cyborg cats, and you want to call other people silly...

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 12:07pm:


You showed you nothing about the show when you insisted that the Bajorans represented Palestinians. Even though the Jewish writers of the show are on record as saying they represent the Jews. But I suppose when you know shlt all about history (as you have yet again proven in this thread) it is hard to make the connections.

Want to talk about gullibility? Anyone who believes you went up in a F111. That would take a level of gullibility that even these holy grail seekers could never understand. 

Yadda wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 9:29am:


save your sympathy for yourself, you sound like you need it more than I do.

aquascoot wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 9:02am:


made up?

I don't believe most people who say they've "read the bible".

It's not a book that lends itself to a leisurely read, which is why priests pick a passage here and there to focus on, instead of just picking up where they left off last week.

I'm even less inclined to believe people who say they've read it twice.  And when somebody with a track record of lying claims to have read it twice, the smell of bullshit becomes overwhelming.

a little.  Thanks for asking.

John Smith wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:


There is still a massive hole in the timeline of your suggestion.

How can the Romans get the Horus story, change the name to Jesus and make it a new religion, when Christianity already existed for 3 centuries before the Romans accepted Christianity?

Or are you suggesting that the Romans created Christianity from the Horus story in the 1st century, and then spent the next 3 centuries trying to destroy their own created religion until deciding to accept it in the 4th century? 

I fail to see how you can not be ignoring the near 300 year persecution of Christians by the Romans if maintaining that the Romans simply adopted the Horus story.

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In their final form. They would not have been passed down by word for decades.

Again this brings us back to the future historian and the World War 2 example. Most of our knowledge of World War 2 in books are those which have been written after the war. But these books where written by people who either witnessed or who investigated primary sources but did not put pen to paper till many years later. We accept this delay as perfectly normal and something inevitable. Why is this such a big issue in the ancient world? If someone witnessed Jesus and wrote their account decades latter, how is that any different to Albert Speers writing his account decades later? Is Weinberg's historical work of the War to be dismissed because it was not written until over half a century after the fact? If not, why dismiss an ancient writing that to would have pulled information from other sources but was likewise written decades latter?

These arguments for taking Jesus out of history would require throwing all history in the bin as the standards being set disqualify everything.