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Re: It's time to reclaim Islam from the fanatics
Reply #135 - Apr 7^th, 2014 at 10:37pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 7^th, 2014 at 9:25am:

for general info, muslims believe Jesus was not the Christ and much of the Bible has been falsified.

Yet, they still quote from it ...............

Muslims do believe that Jesus is the Christ. They are just compelled to DISbelieve the whole subject of the Gospel, because of their faith in the false prophet Muhammad alone. Secular historians believe that Jesus existed too. That doesn't mean they are born again or believe in Jesus. Believers are in Christ Jesus, and He in us.

Indeed it cannot be denied, that according to scripture, Muhammad - and each and every one of his followers over the last 1400 years - are antichrist as an article of their faith in Muhammad alone. Why do you suppose not a single follower of Muhammad attempted to argue against this matter of fact, on the related thread?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391788854

No surprise Muslims in here are embracing Spong's gnosticism, since one of the primary authors of the Quran was Muhammad's first wife Khadijah's cousin Waraqa bin Naufal, who was a gnostic occult Ebionite priest.
http://www.brotherpete.com/simon_magnus_gnostics_ebionites_islam.htm

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Re: It's time to reclaim Islam from the fanatics
Reply #136 - Apr 7^th, 2014 at 11:07pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 7^th, 2014 at 1:03pm:

Islam does not repudiate Christianity.

The abject ignorance to the subject, expressed by such a claim, is appalling. Start with the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. Here's the STAND-ALONE false prophet Muhammad on the whole subject of the Gospel - not a stretch to say the whole Bible - over 500 years after the scriptures were complete:

Quran Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

No crucifixion, death and resurrection, then no shed blood that saves everyone from dying in our sins, who have faith in the shed blood of the Passover Lamb of God.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm#passover_lamb_of_god

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Islam proclaims the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. Muhammad filling his followers with complete resolve as to what to DIS
believe, through his counter-Gospel anti-religion. No surprise then, to find that ISLAM IS ANTICHRIST:

Quran Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah
. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Islam is antichrist according to the only source that introduced and defined the term:

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth
the Father and the Son
. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

If you believe you can deny this please weigh in on this matter of fact truth, that no Muslim has tried to deny, on the thread devoted to it:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391788854

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Re: It's time to reclaim Islam from the fanatics
Reply #137 - Apr 7^th, 2014 at 11:59pm

More Islamic fanaticism

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MALAYSIA and Indonesia have banned the biblical epic Noah, joining other Muslim nations that forbid the Hollywood movie for its visual depiction of the prophet.

Film censors in both countries said Monday that the portrayal of the ark-building prophet by Russell Crowe was against Islamic laws. Depictions of any prophet are shunned in Islam to avoid worship of a person rather than God.

“The film Noah is not allowed to be screened in this country to protect the sensitivity and harmony in Malaysia’s multiracial and multi-religious community,’’ Film Censorship Board chairman Abdul Halim Abdul Hamid said in a statement.

Malay Muslims make up about 60 per cent of Malaysia’s 30 million people, and Christians about 9 per cent.

In the world’s most populous Muslim nation, the head of Indonesia’s censor board Muchlis Paeni said the plot of the film directed by Darren Aronofsky contradicted both the Koran and the Bible.

“We have to reject Noah to be screened here,’’ Mr Paeni said. ``We don’t want a film that could provoke controversies and negative reactions.’’

The Indonesian Council of Ulama, the country’s most influential Islamic body, welcomed the move, saying films that could corrupt religious teachings should be outlawed. Many Indonesians condemned the ban on social media.

“The decision was very regrettable, so sad,’’ filmmaker Joko Anwar said on Twitter, warning it was a backward step for Indonesia.

Much of the Muslim world, including the UAE, Qatar and Bahrain, has already banned the film, which is a box-office hit in the US. Some Christian conservatives also have complained of its inaccurate portrayal of the biblical account of the flood.

Paramount Pictures added a disclaimer to its marketing material, saying “artistic licence has been taken’’ in telling the story.

The Koran mentions only 25 prophets by name, including Noah. Muslims believe that Noah, who is referred to in Arabic as Nuh, built his ark after God charged him to do it as people in his community refused to worship God alone. While there are differences between the biblical and Koranic story of Noah, both mention a terrible flood and Noah’s vessel saving a pair of each species of animal.

from 'moderate' muslim countries''

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Re: It's time to reclaim Islam from the fanatics
Reply #138 - Apr 8^th, 2014 at 5:13pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

ISLAM's response to Judaism and Christianity is perverse.

But then ISLAM immediately turns upon Judaism and Christianity, and then absolutely repudiates historic Judaism and historic Christianity!

Perhaps you should research what your buddies the Jews say about the virgin Mary. Hint: the word virgin is definitely not the word that they use.

Muslims acknowledge the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus, and accept him as a messenger of God.

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Re: It's time to reclaim Islam from the fanatics
Reply #139 - Apr 8^th, 2014 at 5:26pm

True Colours wrote on Apr 8^th, 2014 at 5:13pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

ISLAM's response to Judaism and Christianity is perverse.

But then ISLAM immediately turns upon Judaism and Christianity, and then absolutely repudiates historic Judaism and historic Christianity!

Perhaps you should research what your buddies the Jews say about the virgin Mary. Hint: the word virgin is definitely not the word that they use.

Muslims acknowledge the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus, and accept him as a messenger of God.

Could you guys follow a thought through without always, always being sidetracked to what the Jews do or say or don't do and don't say? You guys have Jews on the brain.

One would think you have a massive chip on your shoulders and a crushing inferiority complex.

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Re: It's time to reclaim Islam from the fanatics
Reply #140 - Apr 9^th, 2014 at 1:04pm

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2014 at 5:26pm:

True Colours wrote on Apr 8^th, 2014 at 5:13pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

ISLAM's response to Judaism and Christianity is perverse.

But then ISLAM immediately turns upon Judaism and Christianity, and then absolutely repudiates historic Judaism and historic Christianity!

Perhaps you should research what your buddies the Jews say about the virgin Mary. Hint: the word virgin is definitely not the word that they use.

Muslims acknowledge the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus, and accept him as a messenger of God.

Could you guys follow a thought through without always, always being sidetracked to what the Jews do or say or don't do and don't say? You guys have Jews on the brain.

One would think you have a massive chip on your shoulders and a crushing inferiority complex.

Always, absolutely, never ever, old chap. What did good old Reggie say?

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Re: It's time to reclaim Islam from the fanatics
Reply #141 - Apr 9^th, 2014 at 8:52pm

True Colours wrote on Apr 8^th, 2014 at 5:13pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

ISLAM's response to Judaism and Christianity is perverse.

But then ISLAM immediately turns upon Judaism and Christianity, and then absolutely repudiates historic Judaism and historic Christianity!

Perhaps you should research what your buddies the Jews say about the virgin Mary. Hint: the word virgin is definitely not the word that they use.

Muslims acknowledge the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus, and accept him as a messenger of God.

That's irrelevant as long as you reject Jesus as the Son of God, and reject the blood He shed for us all, which is the whole subject of the Gospel. Nothing else matters. That is of course the same reason you couldn't reply to my prior post. Islam is antichrist. Muhammad was an antichrist. Each and every one of Muhammad's followers is an antichrist, as an article of their faith in the false prophet Muhammad alone:

1 John 2:22.....He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

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