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Your budget wish list
Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:13am
 
Here's mine.

1. Abolish/ don't introduce all govt funded parental leave. They're your kids, look after them yourselves.
I realise this entails breaking an election policy but we all make mistakes.
2. Abolish child care rebates for family incomes above say $70,000. They're your kids, look after them yourselves.
3. Abolish family "tax" payments for family incomes above say $70,000. Government should only be there to top up income for the needy.
4. Significantly stiffen the income/assets test for age pension. If you have enough money to look after yourself, then do it.

We have had enough time now to see what happens to countries with welfare systems that are too generous. Govt should be there for the needy, not for those who just would like to have more.

There are probably more nasties I could add but that will do for now.
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Reply #1 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:27am
 
1. Abolish all middle class wealthfare
2. Put the dole up
3. Leave the pensioners alone
4. Make more education available for those that want it
5. Stop selling the money makers of the government (PO, electricity, medibank private, etc)
6. Leave the carbon tax alone since its already in there its gunna cost too much to get rid of it
7. Hire more nurses, doctors, teachers, police, and certerlink staff (public servants in other words)
8. Tax churches and religious institutions

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Reply #2 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:31am
 
You need to be more specific about what middle class wealthfare is.
And if you want to abolish that, why not do something about removing the age pension from people who don't need it?
The fed govt doesn't hire nurses, doctors, teachers or most police, so these are not fed budget matters.
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Reply #3 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:33am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:27am:
1. Abolish all middle class wealthfare
2. Put the dole up
3. Leave the pensioners alone
4. Make more education available for those that want it
5. Stop selling the money makers of the government (PO, electricity, medibank private, etc)
6. Leave the carbon tax alone since its already in there its gunna cost too much to get rid of it
7. Hire more nurses, doctors, teachers, police, and certerlink staff (public servants in other words)
8. Tax churches and religious institutions

SOB



What he said......or

1. Wish for damage limitation (we all know the conservatives go hard on the poor and soft on the wealthy)
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Reply #4 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:42am
 
I thought you had more sense, your ladyship, to follow on with his suggestions which at the very least need some modification.
Added to what I said in response to SOB, the feds don't technically supply education either. It's a state matter.
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Reply #5 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:42am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:13am:
Here's mine.

1. Abolish/ don't introduce all govt funded parental leave. They're your kids, look after them yourselves.
I realise this entails breaking an election policy but we all make mistakes.
2. Abolish child care rebates for family incomes above say $70,000. They're your kids, look after them yourselves.
3. Abolish family "tax" payments for family incomes above say $70,000. Government should only be there to top up income for the needy.
4. Significantly stiffen the income/assets test for age pension. If you have enough money to look after yourself, then do it.

We have had enough time now to see what happens to countries with welfare systems that are too generous. Govt should be there for the needy, not for those who just would like to have more.

There are probably more nasties I could add but that will do for now.



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1) Pay going rate of taxation on super earnings over 100K
2) Abolish neg gearing
3) Require proof for business car write offs
4) Bring in Land tax, 1 exemption of occupied dwelling
5) Increase company back to 33% or raise GST to 17.5% & include all exemptons
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Reply #6 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:46am
 
You are aware GST is a regressive tax, so increasing it to 17.5 is going to hurt the poor more. That said, some increase, say to 12.5 is inevitable.
I thought business cars still had to be supported by log books? The trouble is, how many can the tATO look at.
Land tax has always been a state tax, As far as I know it still applies and does exempt owner occupied dwelling.
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Reply #7 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:51am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:42am:
I thought you had more sense, your ladyship, to follow on with his suggestions which at the very least need some modification.
Added to what I said in response to SOB, the feds don't technically supply education either. It's a state matter.


They can give the states money for education and health. Also they can make policies that make education and health more accessible to poor ppl.

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Reply #8 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:54am
 
I always say what they give on the roundabout they take back on the swings....

so I will ask for

BETTER VALUE FOR MY TAX DOLLAR...

my greatest whinge is the gold passes they all get when they leave get the sack whatever... it should go.. once and for all..

along with all the overseas travel they feel they are entitled too..
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Reply #9 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:57am
 
For SOB:
As I understand it, the transfers to the states for education and health have already been determined by agreement at COAG or special meetings. The coming budget is not likely to change that.

Now, can you tell me what welfare measures you would like to see changed.
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Reply #10 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:00am
 
I missed one of your smithy.
The going rate for super income above $100K? That's overly generous I would say.
I'd like to see it at about the level at which pension entitlement ceases, which has got to be a lot less than $100K.
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Reply #11 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:03am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:46am:
Land tax has always been a state tax, As far as I know it still applies and does exempt owner occupied dwelling.


further thinking



the full doco is worth a look to

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:46am:
You are aware GST is a regressive tax, so increasing it to 17.5 is going to hurt the poor more. That said, some increase, say to 12.5 is inevitable.


I gave them a choice, they can choose GST or companies

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:46am:
I thought business cars still had to be supported by log books? The trouble is, how many can the tATO look at.


Labor had the idea and the world was going to collapse so I would assume they already know how they were going to do it.







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Reply #12 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:27am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:00am:
I missed one of your smithy.
The going rate for super income above $100K? That's overly generous I would say.
I'd like to see it at about the level at which pension entitlement ceases, which has got to be a lot less than $100K.


Yes personally I'd like to see it around the 52K
$1000 can be earned every week & you pay no tax on it.
If your over 65 & can't live on that well its the old grasshopper/ant tale & you've only got yourself to blame.
But it seems the richer you are the more you expect.
"Ive paid tax , I deserve X"
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Reply #13 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 11:42am
 
1. End Funding to private schools.
2. End funding to mining industry.
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Reply #14 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 1:03pm
 
alevine,
Funding to private schools should be looked at as a return on the education component of tax, which the parents have already paid. Surely all parents are entitled to some return for that part of the tax dollar.
If you're going to say in response, let all the kids go to public schools, you're really making an idealogical argument.
Apart from that, there are not enough public schools to cope.
The same arguments can be put for the private health rebate.

As to mining, what handouts do you have in mind? You are surely not talking about the depreciation allowances on plant, to which all businesses are entitled as an operating cost.
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