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Roads of the 21st century
Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:16am

From Abbott election speech

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The WestConnex in Sydney, the East West Link in Melbourne, the Gateway Upgrade here in Brisbane, the North South Road in Adelaide, and the Swan Bypass in Perth will be well and truly underway.

So Abbott wants to built 5 new roads in 6 capital cities. Hobart misses out Cry

Why is that is there not enough cars in Tasmania to built a big new road.

How will the big new roads be better then public transport? Why didn't Abbott promise to put any money into public transport?

Who is the roads going to help the most? How will the roads help people that live in the country? Who will be the main benefactor of the big new roads? If the roads are funded by the federal government will there be a toll on using the roads so we are paying twice to used the road?

With the big new roads getting built, will that put more cars on the road so more petrol would be sold and making the petrol companies more profit?

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Reply #1 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:22am

John S wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:16am:

From Abbott election speech

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The WestConnex in Sydney, the East West Link in Melbourne, the Gateway Upgrade here in Brisbane, the North South Road in Adelaide, and the Swan Bypass in Perth will be well and truly underway.

So Abbott wants to built 5 new roads in 6 capital cities. Hobart misses out Cry

Why is that is there not enough cars in Tasmania to built a big new road.

How will the big new roads be better then public transport? Why didn't Abbott promise to put any money into public transport?

Who is the roads going to help the most? How will the roads help people that live in the country? Who will be the main benefactor of the big new roads? If the roads are funded by the federal government will there be a toll on using the roads so we are paying twice to used the road?

With the big new roads getting built, will that put more cars on the road so more petrol would be sold and making the petrol companies more profit?

Wheres Canberras funding for light rail. We dont need any new roads here, but love light rail.

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Reply #2 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:08pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:22am:

Wheres Canberras funding for light rail. We dont need any new roads here, but love light rail.

Light rail is public transport and we know Abbott doesn't believe in public transport, that is why there is no money for it.

How would petrol companies make a profit out of light rail or heavy rail.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95645 Gender:	Re: Roads of the 21st century Reply #3 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:11pm Mr Abbott is a jobs and infrastructure PM, leftards. He'll get this country right again. Safe, reliable, predictable, sane, measured, responsible government, steady as she goes. Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.
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Reply #4 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:22pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:22am:

Wheres Canberras funding for light rail. We dont need any new roads here, but love light rail.

Canberra doesn't need light rail and anyway the plan is (apparently) for it to only run from Gungahlin or down Northbourne Avenue, or something. I can think of better things to spend our ACT taxpayer money on. Simon Corbell is an idiot. Roll Eyes

http://the-riotact.com/toot-toot-simon-seeking-light-rail-experts/121122

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Roads of the 21st century Reply #5 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:26pm Bugger the roads. Discourage cars, and promote rail. Put trains back where they've been withdrawn from service. Buy a couple of 2nd-hand HS trains from the Japanese and run them Mel-Can-Syd-Bris and Mel-Adel-Perth. There's a few thousand jobs, for starters. Oh! And re-nationalise rail. Privatisation HAS failed.
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Reply #6 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:32pm

Neferti wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:22pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:22am:

Wheres Canberras funding for light rail. We dont need any new roads here, but love light rail.

Canberra doesn't need light rail and anyway the plan is (apparently) for it to only run from Gungahlin or down Northbourne Avenue, or something. I can think of better things to spend our ACT taxpayer money on. Simon Corbell is an idiot. Roll Eyes

http://the-riotact.com/toot-toot-simon-seeking-light-rail-experts/121122

WRONG!

Of course it does.

Has for years.

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Reply #7 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:34pm

Kat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Bugger the roads.

Discourage cars, and promote rail.

Put trains back where they've been withdrawn from service.

Oh, Mr Abbott will do that, don't you worry.

Sir Clive's put in the application already - a lovely new railway line all the way to his wonderful new Barrier Reef coal port.

That's right, leftards. Australia is open for business again.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.

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Reply #8 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:40pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:34pm:

Kat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Bugger the roads.

Discourage cars, and promote rail.

Put trains back where they've been withdrawn from service.

Oh, Mr Abbott will do that, don't you worry.

Sir Clive's put in the application already - a lovely new railway line all the way to his wonderful new Barrier Reef coal port.

That's right, leftards. Australia is open for business again.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.

Yeas.....and Newmann gave the line to Gina. Sir Clive is not happy.

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Reply #9 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:42pm

Kat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:32pm:

WRONG!

Of course it does.

Has for years.

Do you live in Canberra, Max? I gather that you do not! I do and I know we do NOT need light rail from Gungahlin to Civic, a Very Fast Train to Sydney, or a lot of other rubbish the ACT Labor/Green Party wants to spend our hard earned money on. The Federal Government is only responsible for National Highways, not public transport.

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Reply #10 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 5:01pm

Kat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Bugger the roads.

Discourage cars, and promote rail.

Put trains back where they've been withdrawn from service.

Buy a couple of 2nd-hand HS trains from the Japanese and
run them Mel-Can-Syd-Bris and Mel-Adel-Perth.

There's a few thousand jobs, for starters.

Oh! And re-nationalise rail. Privatisation HAS failed.

I am guessing you don't own a car or don't know how to drive. Rail goes... not very many places. it doesn't go to my kids school, the shops, work or any of those places.

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Reply #11 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 6:00pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:34pm:

Kat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Bugger the roads.

Discourage cars, and promote rail.

Put trains back where they've been withdrawn from service.

Oh, Mr Abbott will do that, don't you worry.

Sir Clive's put in the application already - a lovely new railway line all the way to his wonderful new Barrier Reef coal port.

That's right, leftards. Australia is open for business again.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.

Yeas.....and Newmann gave the line to Gina. Sir Clive is not happy.

Dame Gina? Well, yes, but that’s a reward for her services to the Australian people.

Sir Clive will get what’s his, Aussie, don’t you worry about that. Mr Abbott is the infrastructure Prime Minister. He’ll build the roads and rail of the 21st century.

You know, like the robber barrons, knights and dames of the 19th century.

What a tall glass of water that man is.

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Reply #12 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 6:04pm

Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 5:01pm:

Kat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Bugger the roads.

Discourage cars, and promote rail.

Put trains back where they've been withdrawn from service.

Buy a couple of 2nd-hand HS trains from the Japanese and
run them Mel-Can-Syd-Bris and Mel-Adel-Perth.

There's a few thousand jobs, for starters.

Oh! And re-nationalise rail. Privatisation HAS failed.

I am guessing you don't own a car or don't know how to drive. Rail goes... not very many places. it doesn't go to my kids school, the shops, work or any of those places.

Who cares? It goes up Gina’s holes.

Your kids’ school, shops and work must have been built before the days of rail, Bread. Too bad.

Lucky they invented the car, eh?

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Reply #13 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 8:01pm

Neferti wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:22pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:22am:

Wheres Canberras funding for light rail. We dont need any new roads here, but love light rail.

Canberra doesn't need light rail and anyway the plan is (apparently) for it to only run from Gungahlin or down Northbourne Avenue, or something. I can think of better things to spend our ACT taxpayer money on. Simon Corbell is an idiot. Roll Eyes

http://the-riotact.com/toot-toot-simon-seeking-light-rail-experts/121122

Such as? Really our bus system is a joke and the roads need unclogging during peak hour.

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Reply #14 - Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 8:02pm

Neferti wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Kat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:32pm:

WRONG!

Of course it does.

Has for years.

Do you live in Canberra, Max? I gather that you do not! I do and I know we do NOT need light rail from Gungahlin to Civic, a Very Fast Train to Sydney, or a lot of other rubbish the ACT Labor/Green Party wants to spend our hard earned money on. The Federal Government is only responsible for National Highways, not public transport.

Your background in infrastructure and commercial development as well as your qualifications in regional planning telling you that?

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