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Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:17pm
 
Dear O dear O dear ...

John Smith ~ tell me it isn't so.

The Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) is once again dredging up The Usual Suspects of Mediterranean ethnic gangsters in high government positions up to their usual mischief.

Is it 'Nature' or 'Nurture'? one asks. Nasty habits from the Old Country do seem to die hard, John.

What was the phrase Pickering used? 'Risen like buoyant faecal matter".

The names that have been floating to the surface as the ICAC inquiry has continued ...

Eddie Obeid
Moses Obeid
Son #2 Obeid
Nick Di Girolamo
Morris Iemma
Joe Tripodi (was once told to stop sexually harassing women in parliament)
Michael Photios
Paul Nicolaou
Arthur Sinodinos

Jesus.

Dear O dear O dear ...





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Reply #1 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:35pm
 
Morris Iemma hasn't done anything wrong has he? I always liked him. I don't think much of the others, but we've always had gangsters here of one nationality or the other, although Obeid and Co. have been the most corrupt we've seen in decades.

I don't think we've moved on from being a penal colony.
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Reply #2 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:27pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:17pm:
Dear O dear O dear ...

John Smith ~ tell me it isn't so.

The Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) is once again dredging up The Usual Suspects of Mediterranean ethnic gangsters in high government positions up to their usual mischief.

Is it 'Nature' or 'Nurture'? one asks. Nasty habits from the Old Country do seem to die hard, John.

What was the phrase Pickering used? 'Risen like buoyant faecal matter".

The names that have been floating to the surface as the ICAC inquiry has continued ...

Eddie Obeid
Moses Obeid
Son #2 Obeid
Nick Di Girolamo
Morris Iemma
Joe Tripodi (was once told to stop sexually harassing women in parliament)
Michael Photios
Paul Nicolaou
Arthur Sinodinos

Jesus.

Dear O dear O dear ...





And Jesus?

I always knew that guy was a bit sus.

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Reply #3 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 2:32pm
 
mantra wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:35pm:
Morris Iemma hasn't done anything wrong has he? I always liked him.


Grin Grin Grin You like them 'cute-and-cuddly' don't you? He was always a little bit on the shy side, and that's what appealed to your motherly instincts. 

mantra wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:35pm:
I don't think much of the others,


To be fair, it remains to be seen how they all fare in the final wash-up.

We had a lot of crooked police exposed by the Royal Commission, but these weren't politicians in leading roles in our society who had been elected by people who had faith in their honesty and integrity.

This is the second major scandal in recent years involving not only NSW politicians but also suburban mayors, councillors, etc ... distinguishing themselves as the Usual Suspects with Mediterranean names.

I think it might be something to do with the diet. Cheese, olives, pasta, and tomatoes day in and day out is liable to upset the brain chemistry. It's a volatile mix.

mantra wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:35pm:
but we've always had gangsters here of one nationality or the other ...


We're talking politicians here ... not your common plebeian.

This is an introduced culture from the Old Countries.

mantra wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:35pm:
although Obeid and Co. have been the most corrupt we've seen in decades.


Years ago when I first came across the name of Eddie Obeid as a member of the NSW parliament ~ and saw the looks of the fellow ~ my first thought was .. "I wonder what he's up to?"

He and his brood have played us for suckers.

mantra wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:35pm:
I don't think we've moved on from being a penal colony.


Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #4 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:13pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:17pm:
The Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) is once again dredging up The Usual Suspects of Mediterranean ethnic gangsters in high government positions up to their usual mischief


mediteranian? Of all those names, only one was born O'seas that I could find ... granted, I only had a cursory look, but from my searches most of these people are Aussies, Herb

Are you racist against Aussies too now Herb? Only the poms are good enough for you?
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Reply #5 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:13pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:17pm:
The Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) is once again dredging up The Usual Suspects of Mediterranean ethnic gangsters in high government positions up to their usual mischief


mediteranian? Of all those names, only one was born O'seas that I could find ... granted, I only had a cursory look, but from my searches most of these people are Aussies, Herb.


Don't take me or others here for a fool. Greek-Australian, Italian-Australian, Lebanese-Australian. They still have the Old Country in their Australian homes until at least the 7th generation.

Suck it up, John. If I could smile for 30 years while being the target of untiring ethnic insults for being an English immigrant ~ then so can you now smile for me.

Smiley

John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:13pm:
Are you racist against Aussies too now Herb? Only the poms are good enough for you?


Next time you're down at the Fish Markets, or the Vegetable Markets, or the Marconi Club, or visiting Griffith  ~ tella the boys to take it easy ona the crime, okay? (I'm gently slapping your face now, in the Italian way like de Nero and many others have done in gangster movies).

*SLAP!* Capisce? Huh? *SLAP* Huh? *SLAP*

You listen to your Uncle Herberto and you gonna be all right ~ okay? *SLAP* Huh? Okay? *SLAP* *SLAP**SLAP* ...  Smiley
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Reply #6 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 4:44am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Don't take me or others here for a fool. Greek-Australian, Italian-Australian, Lebanese-Australian. They still have the Old Country in their Australian homes until at least the 7th generation.

Suck it up, John. If I could smile for 30 years while being the target of untiring ethnic insults for being an English immigrant ~ then so can you now smile for me.

Smiley


A lot of us Aussies are of English descent. I don't think we've got the same corruption in our blood, but we fall down in other ways. The English dug the path for the direction Australia went down. The English in their quest for a civilisation caused some serious damage because of their religious and moral stance on how people should live their lives.

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Are you racist against Aussies too now Herb? Only the poms are good enough for you?


Next time you're down at the Fish Markets, or the Vegetable Markets, or the Marconi Club, or visiting Griffith  ~ tella the boys to take it easy ona the crime, okay? (I'm gently slapping your face now, in the Italian way like de Nero and many others have done in gangster movies).

*SLAP!* Capisce? Huh? *SLAP* Huh? *SLAP*

You listen to your Uncle Herberto and you gonna be all right ~ okay? *SLAP* Huh? Okay? *SLAP* *SLAP**SLAP* ...  Smiley


That brought back memories. My grandparents had a farm in Griffith and as a kid on one of my many stays we went into town for supplies. My aunt pointed out some Italians who had begun to establish themselves there and instructed me never to look at them because they all carried knives and would kill you if you looked suspicious because they grew drugs. It took years before I was brave enough to look them in the eyes.

Not all Italians are the same as I eventually found out.
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Reply #7 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:56am
 
mantra wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 4:44am:
A lot of us Aussies are of English descent. I don't think we've got the same corruption in our blood, but we fall down in other ways.


Grin Grin Grin

Wear a crash helmet at the computer for the next few hours. You might be getting some rockets coming your way!  Smiley

I think we British types are just as venal and open to corruption as anyone else ... BUT! ~ our society has systems in place that regularly audits the wealth and dealings of our politicians in a quiet and unobtrusive way.

This has made our own politicians a little more reluctant to step out of line for fear of the faceless Corruption Police who do a regular sweep.

Our ethnic pollies are still working under the Old Country culture of "No worry! Give whoever enough money and they willa SHUDDUPPA THEIR FACE! ~ and if money doesn't stop the rat from snitching to the police, then send Bruno-the-Blunt-Force-Trauma specialist to see him ... "

mantra wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 4:44am:
The English dug the path for the direction Australia went down. The English in their quest for a civilisation caused some serious damage because of their religious and moral stance on how people should live their lives.


The natives suffered a culture shock upon contact with the British imperialists, but that was only to be expected. These very same Aborigines in various parts of the former British Empire are today slowly adopting Western civilisation's political and social structures and institutions as 'best practice'.

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*SLAP!* Capisce? Huh? *SLAP* Huh? *SLAP*

You listen to your Uncle Herberto and you gonna be all right ~ okay? *SLAP* Huh? Okay? *SLAP* *SLAP**SLAP* ... 
Smiley

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That brought back memories. My grandparents had a farm in Griffith and as a kid on one of my many stays we went into town for supplies. My aunt pointed out some Italians who had begun to establish themselves there and instructed me never to look at them because they all carried knives and would kill you if you looked suspicious because they grew drugs. It took years before I was brave enough to look them in the eyes. [/quote]

Grin Grin Grin

I can hear the theme from The Godfather playing in the background ...

Being a child at the time they would have made a big fuss over you, and stuffed you full of Italian home-cooking, and swamped you with plenty of generosity and goodwill.

Being an immigrant factory worker, I knew many Italians. They can be a little over-powering if they like you. 'Smothering'.  Grin

mantra wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 4:44am:
Not all Italians are the same as I eventually found out.


I can't count the number of dinki di Australian women I've known over the years who are married to Italians.
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Reply #8 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 8:30am
 
The thing I've noticed about Italians, men and women, they mostly have beautiful eyes which overshadow many of their other characteristics.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:56am:
The natives suffered a culture shock upon contact with the British imperialists, but that was only to be expected. These very same Aborigines in various parts of the former British Empire are today slowly adopting Western civilisation's political and social structures and institutions as 'best practice'.


There was a bit more than that. Remember when thousands of British toddlers were taken off their parents and sent to Australia and used as slave labour amongst other unsavoury activities. They grew up not knowing who they were. Mostly the parents didn't see their children again and didn't know where they were. The English didn't want overbreeding in the slums so sent the babies here.

Then there was another time when it was legal to be a paedophile as long as the child consented.

Wasn't there a huge corruption scandal not so long ago in the British Parliament where most of the pollies were rorting the system one way or another? Fortunately something was done about it at the time and it's stayed reasonably honest since then.

They could give Australia a few tips, but we're a slacker country. "It'll be right mate" seems to be the general attitude. Most of our politicians are corrupt, but some are just smarter crooks and don't get caught like the greedy ones do.
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Reply #9 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 9:43am
 
mantra wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 8:30am:
The thing I've noticed about Italians, men and women, they mostly have beautiful eyes which overshadow many of their other characteristics.


To be honest, if I'd had Italian 'good-looks' as a young fella I would never have needed to sleep at home ...   Roll Eyes

"Oh, Herberto! Come up and see my etchings ... "

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mantra wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 8:30am:
There was a bit more than that. Remember when thousands of British toddlers were taken off their parents and sent to Australia and used as slave labour amongst other unsavoury activities. They grew up not knowing who they were. Mostly the parents didn't see their children again and didn't know where they were. The English didn't want overbreeding in the slums so sent the babies here.


The criminal over-sight that the authorities were guilty of was that they didn't put in place an impartial inspection system to oversee and monitor the orphanages and other types of children's homes.

The idea behind these homes had merit ~ but, as always, it was people of cruel character who were attracted to staffing these places who turned what could have been a good experience for the children, into a private hell.

It so often comes down to the individual in a position of power who makes things hell for others.

mantra wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 8:30am:
Then there was another time when it was legal to be a paedophile as long as the child consented.


That's a new one on me. I know in Victorian London they had child brothels for the gentry, but it was still all very hush-hush and illegal. Same with the gay brothels.

mantra wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 8:30am:
Wasn't there a huge corruption scandal not so long ago in the British Parliament where most of the pollies were rorting the system one way or another? Fortunately something was done about it at the time and it's stayed reasonably honest since then.


Sickening.

mantra wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 8:30am:
They could give Australia a few tips, but we're a slacker country. "It'll be right mate" seems to be the general attitude. Most of our politicians are corrupt, but some are just smarter crooks and don't get caught like the greedy ones do.


It's often said that smart people going into politics is self-defeating from the point of view of receiving a much lower salary than if they had gone into business.

I believe our federal politicians get much less than their American counterparts.
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Reply #10 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:17pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 9:43am:
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Then there was another time when it was legal to be a paedophile as long as the child consented.


That's a new one on me. I know in Victorian London they had child brothels for the gentry, but it was still all very hush-hush and illegal. Same with the gay brothels.


I've got it wrong - sorry for the slur on these upstanding Brits. Half listening and amongst the squeals of indignation from the broadcaster, I got the impression a law had been passed briefly 40 years ago lowering the age of consent to 10 or 12.

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According to sociologist Matthew Waites, in the 1970s, a number of grass-roots political actions took place in Britain in favor of lowering the age of consent, which he described as based on claims of children's rights, gay liberation, or as a way to avoid unwanted pregnancies or sexually transmitted diseases.

In May 1974, the Campaign for Homosexual Equality suggested a basic age of consent of 16, but 12 "in cases where a defendant could prove the existence of meaningful consent". In September 1974, the Sexual Law Reform Society proposed lowering the age of consent to 14, with the requirement that below the age of 18 the burden of proof that consent for sexual activities between the parties existed would be the responsibility of the older participant.

In 1976, the British political pressure group Liberty published a proposal advocating reducing the age of consent laws to 10 years of age, only when both individuals are younger than 14, with a close-in-age exemption of two years if one of the involved individuals is older than 14 but younger than 16. The report was signed by Harriet Harman, who later went on to become a prominent figure in government and deputy leader of the Labour Party.

The Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee) lists abolition of age-of-consent laws among its immediate demands, with the added provision that there be alternate legal methods to protect children from sexual abuse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality
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Reply #11 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 6:18pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Don't take me or others here for a fool.


Is there any other way to take you?

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Greek-Australian, Italian-Australian, Lebanese-Australian. They still have the Old Country in their Australian homes until at least the 7th generation.


what a load of balony ... every time you open your mouth you prove just what a delluded racist you are 

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
If I could smile for 30 years while being the target of untiring ethnic insults for being an English immigrant ~ then so can you now smile for me


I don't have to do anything for you ... sounds like the most likely reason you might have been insulted for 30yrs is because of your attitude more than anything else.  I've known lots of poms and none of them have ever whinged about copping ethnic insults.
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Reply #12 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 7:18pm
 
mantra wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:17pm:
I've got it wrong - sorry for the slur on these upstanding Brits. Half listening and amongst the squeals of indignation from the broadcaster, I got the impression a law had been passed briefly 40 years ago lowering the age of consent to 10 or 12.


Some interesting comments here:

So what, then, do we know? A paedophile is someone who has a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children. Savile appears to have been primarily an ephebophile, defined as someone who has a similar preferential attraction to adolescents, though there have been claims one of his victims was aged eight.

Psychologist Glenn Wilson, co-author of The Child-Lovers: a Study of Paedophiles in Society, argues that "The majority of paedophiles, however socially inappropriate, seem to be gentle and rational."

Legal definitions of paedophilia, needless to say, have no truck with such niceties, focusing on the offence, not the offender. The Sex Offenders Act 1997 defined paedophilia as a sexual relationship between an adult over 18 and a child below 16.


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The definitions vary.


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Reply #13 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 7:23pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 6:18pm:
Is there any other way to take you?

what a load of balony ... every time you open your mouth you prove just what a delluded racist you are 

I don't have to do anything for you ... sounds like the most likely reason you might have been insulted for 30yrs is because of your attitude more than anything else.


******* 

Just one long ad hominem. I really don't know why you worry about me so much. It's the same with Karnel and Laugh. Hanging on my every word.

Just relax, hombre.

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Arthur Sinodinos got a hiding at ICAC yesterday. Apparently he sweated so much he drank around 20 glasses of water while saying he 'couldn't remember' at least 50 times.

Not looking good for him at all.

I'm especially looking forward to Joe Tripodi getting crucified at the inquiry.

My respect for former NSW premier Kristina Kenneally has rocketed. It was she alone who had been frustrating this Mediterranean Mafia by refusing their requests for this, that, and the other. If it hadn't been for her standing up to these Mediterranean gangsters things would be a whole lot worse.

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Reply #14 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 7:30pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 7:23pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 6:18pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Don't take me or others here for a fool.


Is there any other way to take you?

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Greek-Australian, Italian-Australian, Lebanese-Australian. They still have the Old Country in their Australian homes until at least the 7th generation.


what a load of balony ... every time you open your mouth you prove just what a delluded racist you are 

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
If I could smile for 30 years while being the target of untiring ethnic insults for being an English immigrant ~ then so can you now smile for me


I don't have to do anything for you ... sounds like the most likely reason you might have been insulted for 30yrs is because of your attitude more than anything else.  I've known lots of poms and none of them have ever whinged about copping ethnic insults.


Just one long ad hominem. I really don't know why you worry about me so much. It's the same with Karnel and Laugh. Hanging on my every word.

Just relax, hombre.


you could take your own advice instead of trying to blame all your lifes problems on immigrants ...
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