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Reply #30 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 9:16am

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 7:51am:

Genetic predisposition for shady shenanigans ...

I have to wonder about that - unless it can skip a few generations and link to an ancestor that we know nothing about.

You can have a family history (that you are aware of) of law abiding citizens, but suddenly there's an aberration which can't be explained unless you look at outside influences. Some people are more susceptible to temptation than others.

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Reply #31 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 9:56am

mantra wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 9:16am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 7:51am:

Genetic predisposition for shady shenanigans ...

I have to wonder about that - unless it can skip a few generations and link to an ancestor that we know nothing about.

I was taking liberties, Lady Mantra.

I spent my life working in the crowded arena of the manufacturing industries, and some of the toughest-looking people turned out to be the nicest, while some of the nicest-looking people turned out to be the bastards.

mantra wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 9:16am:

You can have a family history (that you are aware of) of law abiding citizens, but suddenly there's an aberration which can't be explained unless you look at outside influences. Some people are more susceptible to temptation than others.

It's like Gordon Ramsay's brother who is a hopeless drug addict and unemployable.

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Oh no, Another rat's nest of Usual Suspects Reply #32 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 9:59am Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 9:56am: I spent my life working in the crowded arena of the manufacturing industries, and some of the toughest-looking people turned out to be the nicest, while some of the nicest-looking people turned out to be the bastards. I can relate to that.
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Reply #33 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 10:39am

mantra wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 9:56am:

I spent my life working in the crowded arena of the manufacturing industries, and some of the toughest-looking people turned out to be the nicest, while some of the nicest-looking people turned out to be the bastards.

I can relate to that.

It's like your 'Ruffy' ... Grin

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Reply #34 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 11:20am

mantra wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 8:46am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 8:18am:

yes you are cheering him on. You are in effect supporting his racism, not his right to free speech.

Herbert's attitude is similar to the attitudes of most of mainstream Australia who were born prior to Generation X. You hear people with accents ringing up talk back on the radio complaining about all these "new Australians". It's accepted that a lot of people don't like the influx of newcomers that are constantly arriving on our shores.

There is nothing wrong with grouping them. He's not persecuting individuals which is what some of us tend to do. How many times have we seen a slack family of Aussies and thought they were white trash yet one or two members of that family might be very decent people.

perhaps you should re read some of his comments. Any negative story comes out and he is the first to try and link it to race, even though the article he quotes most often does not mention race ....

I've thought many people were trash, but the concept of 'white' trash has never once entered my mind.

People with accents ring and complain about the latest influx of foreigners because they too are being bombarded by all the crap being put out on talk back radio etc. Do you think the stories and images are only transmitted to white homes?

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Reply #35 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 11:42am

John Smith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 4:13pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 12:17pm:

The Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) is once again dredging up The Usual Suspects of Mediterranean ethnic gangsters in high government positions up to their usual mischief

mediteranian? Of all those names, only one was born O'seas that I could find ... granted, I only had a cursory look, but from my searches most of these people are Aussies, Herb

Are you racist against Aussies too now Herb? Only the poms are good enough for you?

Shhh don't tell him about Ian Macdonald Wink

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Reply #37 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:08pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 11:48am:

You can of course present us with a reputable study that validates this stupendous opinion based on nothing more than surnames?

Oh wait...it's Herb... sorry Herb, go back to eating your carrot

Thank you, Alevine.

I actually have just been eating boiled carrots.

'Profiling' ~ that's the name of the game. It actually had merit in making arrests, but then the ethnic lobbyists petitioned Canberra to make this illegal because it was too successful, and was reflecting badly on certain Usual Suspect communities.

Same with no longer publishing the ethnicity of our prisoners ~ as they once did before the ethnic lobbyists became alarmed at the stats showing a huge over-representation of just 3 or 4 ethnicities.

Censorship by omission of ethnic background in a multicultural society is a total contradiction and a blatant hypocrisy.

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Reply #39 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:34pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 6:18pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:

Don't take me or others here for a fool.

Is there any other way to take you?

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:

Greek-Australian, Italian-Australian, Lebanese-Australian. They still have the Old Country in their Australian homes until at least the 7th generation.

what a load of balony ... every time you open your mouth you prove just what a delluded racist you are

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:

If I could smile for 30 years while being the target of untiring ethnic insults for being an English immigrant ~ then so can you now smile for me

I don't have to do anything for you ... sounds like the most likely reason you might have been insulted for 30yrs is because of your attitude more than anything else. I've known lots of poms and none of them have ever whinged about copping ethnic insults.

Yeh - all this Leb'nese droive-boi stuff is jus' blown up in the media, ya know... Lebanese is good people an' we only do droive on boi bad people!

What it comes down to is that these people, in many cases, come from cultures in which poverty for many is endemic (it's different here now?) and thus there is a permanent underclass or 'underworld' of vice, corruption etc.

It's just the way it is - and the way it is going to become here unless The Guv straighten up and fly right...

It is inevitable, like the Great Depression and so forth, that people will be forced to resort to all sorts of shady behaviours to make ends meet - and these guys just knew it already at their father's knee.

Some Italians are nice... we had an Italian neighbour when I was a kid - Joe Romano (believe it!) - and he was a really lovely guy - loved his family, worked hard, fed us neighbour's kids Italian food and all.

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Reply #40 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:51pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 11:48am:

You can of course present us with a reputable study that validates this stupendous opinion based on nothing more than surnames?

Oh wait...it's Herb... sorry Herb, go back to eating your carrot

Thank you, Alevine.

I actually have just been eating boiled carrots.

'Profiling' ~ that's the name of the game. It actually had merit in making arrests, but then the ethnic lobbyists petitioned Canberra to make this illegal because it was too successful, and was reflecting badly on certain Usual Suspect communities.

Same with no longer publishing the ethnicity of our prisoners ~ as they once did before the ethnic lobbyists became alarmed at the stats showing a huge over-representation of just 3 or 4 ethnicities.

Censorship by omission of ethnic background in a multicultural society is a total contradiction and a blatant hypocrisy.

Herb, after you finish your carrots, I again ask you to provide us with facts to this once again fallacy. Not your opinion. Or something you read from drunk Pickering. It's had merit in making arrests? Show us please,how it's had merit. Don't just say it, but back it up. Because the studies out there show that profiling has very little to do with the reasons behind the disparity between white and non-white prisoners, and it's social inequality that's the biggest reason.

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Reply #41 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:52pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

Some Italians are nice... we had an Italian neighbour when I was a kid - Joe Romano (believe it!) - and he was a really lovely guy - loved his family, worked hard, fed us neighbour's kids Italian food and all.

Italians are nice ~ like all the other ethnics ~ but don't ever, I mean EVER bring your OWN country into the conversation. Big BIG no-no.

Just as long as you keep quiet, and smile, and nod, and listen pleasantly and agreeably to their chatter about their own country, and traditions, and food, and achievements, and glories, and .. and ... and ... it's all smiling faces, goodwill, and merry conviviality.

Start talking about England, or Australia in the same vein as they're talking about Italy or Greece or Yugoslavia, and the atmosphere turns very chilly, very quickly.

All that wonderful, warm-and-friendly bonhomie evaporates like spaghetti at a Big Fat Italian Wedding.

Am I right, John?

John? Hey?

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Reply #42 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:53pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 11:42am:

Shhh don't tell him about Ian Macdonald Wink

I mentioned him earlier this morning.

DO try to keep up, old chap. Wink

You'll forgive me for not reading your every word - I'd get a brain tumor Wink

So what does Pickering feel about poor Ian? A victim of the lebbos?

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Reply #43 - Apr 5^th, 2014 at 1:08pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

You'll forgive me for not reading your every word - I'd get a brain tumor Wink

Yes, I believe stimulation of the brain cells can have that effect. Instead of a pearl, you get a brain tumour. Most unfortunate.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 5^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

So what does Pickering feel about poor Ian? A victim of the lebbos?

I really don't know, but Pickering has his fingers-on-the-pulse in other areas ... ones that should concern us all, even John.

Enjoy

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