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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Right of reply Reply #15 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 7:16am mantra wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 4:18am: Take your own advice and ignore it or report Aussie to the ACMA. I am sorry ... what is my advice?
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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Right of reply Reply #16 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 7:30am Ignore anything which offends you - that is your advice for fear of upsetting specific members and making them worse. Fair enough. Maybe the mods don't want to offend Aussie by banning him for posting such vile slander about you, although I think most people would have a problem figuring out what it was.
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Reply #17 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 8:11am

AiA wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:48am:

What rule has Aussie breached there?

Slander. Do you not see aussie has substituted "FD" with "AiA?" I bugger all to do with this thread sir.

He's not accusing FD or you of any kind of illegal activity though is he?

Slander should rightfully attract a ban, an error shouldn't.

If Aussie admits its an error then for me no harm done and we move on.

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Reply #18 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 8:19am

Aussie wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

Aussie wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 10:20pm:

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I think he made the right call.

Okay. I now understand.

1. No point going to you first, AiA.

2. With your blessing AiA, straight to ACMA and whatever other Government Mob might be interested.

Glad we have cleared that up.

Abject apologies Phemanderac, you were right.

Freudian slip. Where I have typed AiA, it should have been FD.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Right of reply Reply #19 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 8:44am well I think thats cleared that up....I take it A.P. has been firmly dealt with.
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Reply #20 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 9:25am

mantra wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 7:30am:

Ignore anything which offends you - that is your advice for fear of upsetting specific members and making them worse. Fair enough. Maybe the mods don't want to offend Aussie by banning him for posting such vile slander about you, although I think most people would have a problem figuring out what it was.

Can you please provide a link to where I have given that advice at this board. Otherwise you are putting words into my mouth ...

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Reply #21 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 9:33am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

AiA wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:48am:

What rule has Aussie breached there?

Slander. Do you not see aussie has substituted "FD" with "AiA?" I bugger all to do with this thread sir.

He's not accusing FD or you of any kind of illegal activity though is he?

Slander should rightfully attract a ban, an error shouldn't.

If Aussie admits its an error then for me no harm done and we move on.

So if one claims a Freudian slip then all is good? Like when you say one thing but mean Aussie's mother? Oh, sorry, I meant "another."

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Reply #22 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 11:21am

First up, Aussie, honestly I don't require any apology from you for you speaking your mind, it was not offensive at any level, aggressive or nasty. Simply put, I think we saw how to address this issue differently - as is our individual right. That said, and out of respect for you seeing an apology might be necessary, it is accepted fully.

Freediver, thanks for your feedback, insight and support for my action.

It is appreciated, further, I too do not really think the reporter in question (or anyone else for that matter) will follow the matter up, however, for my part, I believe they had a right to make that decision for themselves. Hence my action.

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Reply #23 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 1:14pm

Phemanderac wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

First up, Aussie, honestly I don't require any apology from you for you speaking your mind, it was not offensive at any level, aggressive or nasty. Simply put, I think we saw how to address this issue differently - as is our individual right. That said, and out of respect for you seeing an apology might be necessary, it is accepted fully.

Freediver, thanks for your feedback, insight and support for my action.

It is appreciated, further, I too do not really think the reporter in question (or anyone else for that matter) will follow the matter up, however, for my part, I believe they had a right to make that decision for themselves. Hence my action.

Of course you have a right to bring the attention to someone being misrepresented.

I commend FD for his decision and for you pointing out such a childish action by AP.

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Reply #24 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 3:51pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

AiA wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:48am:

What rule has Aussie breached there?

Slander. Do you not see aussie has substituted "FD" with "AiA?" I bugger all to do with this thread sir.

He's not accusing FD or you of any kind of illegal activity though is he?

Slander should rightfully attract a ban, an error shouldn't.

If Aussie admits its an error then for me no harm done and we move on.

Is it even possible to slander/libel an anonymous ID???

Wink

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Reply #25 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 3:59pm

Lobo wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

AiA wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:48am:

What rule has Aussie breached there?

Slander. Do you not see aussie has substituted "FD" with "AiA?" I bugger all to do with this thread sir.

He's not accusing FD or you of any kind of illegal activity though is he?

Slander should rightfully attract a ban, an error shouldn't.

If Aussie admits its an error then for me no harm done and we move on.

Is it even possible to slander/libel an anonymous ID???

Wink

Yes.

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Reply #26 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 4:58pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 3:59pm:

Lobo wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

AiA wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 2:48am:

What rule has Aussie breached there?

Slander. Do you not see aussie has substituted "FD" with "AiA?" I bugger all to do with this thread sir.

He's not accusing FD or you of any kind of illegal activity though is he?

Slander should rightfully attract a ban, an error shouldn't.

If Aussie admits its an error then for me no harm done and we move on.

Is it even possible to slander/libel an anonymous ID???

Wink

Yes.

Clue me in.
I am under the impression that slander/libel can only occur where the party concerned is recognisable in everyday public life.

Hence the 'Guess who don't sue' columns in some of our finer rags....

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38852 Gender:	Re: Right of reply Reply #27 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 5:13pm Click here. It is but a small step to take.......the reverse/other side of the coin.
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Reply #28 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 6:31pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 5:13pm:

Click here.

It is but a small step to take.......the reverse/other side of the coin.

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The postings related to technology security company Datamotion Asia Pacific Ltd and its Perth-based chairman and managing director, Ronald Moir. One posting appeared under the pseudonym of ''witch''.

The way I read this article is that 'witch' referred to the Company and MD by name, in which case when tracked down the slanderer/libeler(?) can be charged.

No problem with that as the party slandered (Coy and MD) are recognisable in everyday public life.

What I am saying is that if I, froggie, was to say nasty things about you, Aussie, I don't think I can be charged at law with anything as nobody knows, theoretically, just who Aussie is.

I think the worst that could happen is that I would be banned from the board for abuse.

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Reply #29 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 6:49pm

Lobo wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 5:13pm:

Click here.

It is but a small step to take.......the reverse/other side of the coin.

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The postings related to technology security company Datamotion Asia Pacific Ltd and its Perth-based chairman and managing director, Ronald Moir. One posting appeared under the pseudonym of ''witch''.

The way I read this article is that 'witch' referred to the Company and MD by name, in which case when tracked down the slanderer/libeler(?) can be charged.

No problem with that as the party slandered (Coy and MD) are recognisable in everyday public life.

What I am saying is that if I, froggie, was to say nasty things about you, Aussie, I don't think I can be charged at law with anything as nobody knows, theoretically, just who Aussie is.

I think the worst that could happen is that I would be banned from the board for abuse.

Yeas.....that is exactly the point. But.....if I can establish that others here know exactly who I am........it could get interesting. I readily acknowledge it is a frontier, and your point is solid.....but those thresholds are renowned for being crossed with landmark cases. Given just how popular this social medium has become, I reckon it is only a matter of time.

For example, I know (because of the stalking activities of other people on another Forum) who freediver is personally. If he was defamed here, he could use that fact as part of his case.....that (for example) froggie had defamed him here knowing him only as freediver.

Moot point, but worth keeping in mind.

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