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Reply #15 - Apr 5th, 2014 at 2:46pm
 
I sometimes go down to The Point and am perpetually amazed at the lone board surfers out there around sunset.  A  golden rule, like diving, is never surf alone and not at sunset.

I call them 'shark fishermen'....

UN committee person comes down to the shore of The Great South land, with a committee group from Parl-ee-a-ment, and spies a boat racing around off the heads, towing on water skis a group of asylum seekers.

"Wow", she says, "That looks like they are truly welcome here!"

One Aussie politician in the group turns to the next, and says:-

"Damned UN don't know much about shark fishing round here, do they?"
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Reply #16 - Apr 5th, 2014 at 3:11pm
 
GA wrote on Apr 5th, 2014 at 2:41pm:
The statistics are that we'd be safer in the sea than out of it.


Are you talking about Loan Sharks?

I'll have to agree with you there.
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Reply #17 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 10:44am
 
olde.sault wrote on Apr 5th, 2014 at 6:23am:
Untrue, the sea belongs to everyone, at least, for those who can swim.

The reason why sharks don't attack us on land is because they haven't legs nor can breathe on land.



And we don't have fins or gills & can't breathe under water Roll Eyes..... the sea belongs to sea creatures

we enter at our own risk

Is it any different to Lions, Tigers & bears?

We may not be their usual tucker ..... but they will eat us...

& I'm sure they do it purely to eat & survive....

If there is anything that may condition sharks to humans is all these nongs who go out "chumming" up sharks to the backs of boats to take photos or show tourists....

dumb idea
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Reply #18 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 11:40am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 5th, 2014 at 2:46pm:
I sometimes go down to The Point and am perpetually amazed at the lone board surfers out there around sunset.  A  golden rule, like diving, is never surf alone and not at sunset.


Correct.

I've wondered about these Death Wish psychopaths ever since I was chased out of the water by a shark at Manly beach around 1964.

I'm convinced there's a chemical in their brain that simply blocks the fear gland ... amygdala.

It's not a normal healthy person who can float around beyond the breakers on a surfboard knowing that sharks view humans as being more delicious than Beef Wellingtons or Prime Rib roasted with crackling.

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Reply #19 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 11:43am
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 10:44am:
And we ... can't breathe under water Roll Eyes..... the sea belongs to sea creatures ...


Dolphins ... whales ... porpoises ... crabs ... oceanic turtles ... mermaids ... sea snakes ... sea otters ...

tsk  Roll Eyes

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Reply #20 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 1:04pm
 
olde.sault wrote on Apr 5th, 2014 at 10:57am:
GA wrote on Apr 5th, 2014 at 9:20am:
olde.sault wrote on Apr 5th, 2014 at 6:23am:
Untrue, the sea belongs to everyone, at least, for those who can swim.

The reason why sharks don't attack us on land is because they haven't legs nor can breathe on land.



Crap! Sharks generally aren't man-eaters. It's Aussie complacency that's responsible for these deaths more than are the sharks. If for example sharks actually preyed on people, then no-one could safely go in swimming at a beach. And if when a person were attacked they would be ripped to pieces in seconds. But this is not what happens. Sharks 'mistake' humans for prey.


To a shark, a body is just a body. . . why would they think of us as "special"? Perhaps because of our clothing  (not much cloth in a budgee or bikini!)

If hunted when they came near the shore, some sharks might get the message and keep at sea - a very large expanse in which to prey.


I suspect that has actually played a significant role in reducing shark attacks. Sharks are hunted, either directly or indirectly. A shark that bites anything meaty it comes across does not last long. Sharks are very timid now. They investigate closely before biting. All fish are. If the protection of sharks works well and there is an increase in their numbers, expect to see more attacks. Not just because there are more of them, but because they are hungrier and not learning the tough lessons they were in past decades.

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I've wondered about these Death Wish psychopaths ever since I was chased out of the water by a shark at Manly beach around 1964.


I saw that happen at Newcastle once. The guy pretty much pood himself and kept running up the beach, even after he was out of the water. He felt safe once he reached his towel and was then prepared to turn around and look.

It was jut a seal.

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That's ONLY because we don't swim amongst them. They are a little further out from the coastline, chasing the mackerel and bonitos.


Crap. The ones that attack us most are the ones that live in the estuaries and beaches - eg bull sharks. There are sharks wherever there is salt water, even in some fresh water.
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Reply #21 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 1:32pm
 

kill lots of sharks
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Reply #22 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 1:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
I saw that happen at Newcastle once. The guy pretty much pood himself and kept running up the beach, even after he was out of the water. He felt safe once he reached his towel and was then prepared to turn around and look.

It was jut a seal.


I was the second from last one onto the beach of a crowd of about 20.

I'd been swimming for around 40 minutes ~ and then the shark spotting cessna came around the headland and immediately the big bell at the club house started ringing like crazy.

My first thought was: "Sh!t! The shark's had a full 40 minutes at least to come in amongst us ... "

I was never a strong swimmer, but that day I realised for the first time my Olympic potential ...

There was me out on the beach, and that left a fat guy screaming in the surf as he knew he was the only meal left for Mr Sharky and his toothy grin ... I felt really embarrassed for him screaming like that in front of the whole beach, poor fellow.

Over the years I swam there many times again, but I had learnt an important lesson: Sit on the beach and wait for the shark-spotter patrol to fly over the beach again, and then swim for no more than 20 minutes or so.

But then as everyone knows, the biggest killer in the Sydney area is rock-fishing, followed by rip-tides, followed by scuba-diving accidents, followed by boat accidents, followed by drowning while drunk, followed by bull-sharks in the harbour and up the Parramatta river, followed by gangland killings and being dumped out at sea wrapped in chains or wearing concrete shoes, followed by ... (insert your own) 

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That's ONLY because we don't swim amongst them. They are a little further out from the coastline, chasing the mackerel and bonitos.


freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Crap.

The ones that attack us most are the ones that live in the estuaries and beaches - eg bull sharks. There are sharks wherever there is salt water, even in some fresh water.


Double crap. Sharks chase the shoals, and most shaols don't loiter in shallow waters but out in the channels around the reefs.

Where we swim among sharks ~ we get bitten and sometimes killed.

Bull-sharks -Yes. They like the rivers and are adaptable to both salt and fresh water.
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Reply #23 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 1:53pm
 
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Over the years I swam there many times again, but I had learnt an important lesson: Sit on the beach and wait for the shark-spotter patrol to fly over the beach again, and then swim for no more than 20 minutes or so.


It's funny how people can draw different lessons from the same event.

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Double crap. Sharks chase the shoals, and most shaols don't loiter in shallow waters but out in the channels around the reefs.


Sharks chase food. There is food in the estuaries, and sharks chasing it. If you were referring to a single species you may have a point, but you are referring to a broad range of species.
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Reply #24 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 3:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 1:53pm:
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Over the years I swam there many times again, but I had learnt an important lesson: Sit on the beach and wait for the shark-spotter patrol to fly over the beach again, and then swim for no more than 20 minutes or so.


It's funny how people can draw different lessons from the same event.


What other lessons?

freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 1:53pm:
Sharks chase food. There is food in the estuaries, and sharks chasing it. If you were referring to a single species you may have a point, but you are referring to a broad range of species.


I rest my case ... which was: where sharks and people swim in the same waters, that's where the deaths happen.

And sharks being in the estuaries and up the rivers is often because they're ..

a) Old

b) Sick

c) Pregnant.

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Reply #25 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:00pm
 
Re: sharks being in rivers & estuaries because they are old, sick or pregnant is not correct. They inhabit these areas as normal parameters of their range & in all phases of a healthy existence. And not just bull sharks... Tigers, black tips, hammerheads.

Btw what point we're try to make when you quoted my comment about not being able to breath under water & listed all those air breathing marine mammals?

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Reply #26 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 9:09pm
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:00pm:
Re: sharks being in rivers & estuaries because they are old, sick or pregnant is not correct. They inhabit these areas as normal parameters of their range & in all phases of a healthy existence. And not just bull sharks... Tigers, black tips, hammerheads.


Wow! Okay ...
(slowly backing out of the room .. )


Gnads wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:00pm:
Btw what point we're try to make when you quoted my comment about not being able to breath under water & listed all those air breathing marine mammals?


You said if it can't breathe under water then it's not supposed to be in the sea.

Another one's Salt Water crocodiles. The good old 'Saltie'. 
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Reply #27 - Apr 7th, 2014 at 9:03am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:00pm:
Re: sharks being in rivers & estuaries because they are old, sick or pregnant is not correct. They inhabit these areas as normal parameters of their range & in all phases of a healthy existence. And not just bull sharks... Tigers, black tips, hammerheads.


Wow! Okay ...
(slowly backing out of the room .. )


Gnads wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:00pm:
Btw what point we're try to make when you quoted my comment about not being able to breath under water & listed all those air breathing marine mammals?


You said if it can't breathe under water then it's not supposed to be in the sea.

Another one's Salt Water crocodiles. The good old 'Saltie'. 


I never said "if it". ..... I said "we" as in us humans. And I can assure you that most air breathing marine mammals & reptiles can hold their breath under water for much longer than any human...... Because if they couldn't they'd starve. We are not a marine creatures.
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Reply #28 - Apr 7th, 2014 at 10:02am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:00pm:
Re: sharks being in rivers & estuaries because they are old, sick or pregnant is not correct. They inhabit these areas as normal parameters of their range & in all phases of a healthy existence. And not just bull sharks... Tigers, black tips, hammerheads.


Wow! Okay ...
(slowly backing out of the room .. )


Gnads wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:00pm:
Btw what point we're try to make when you quoted my comment about not being able to breath under water & listed all those air breathing marine mammals?


You said if it can't breathe under water then it's not supposed to be in the sea.

Another one's Salt Water crocodiles. The good old 'Saltie'. 


Salt Water crocodiles are one of the few creatures on earth that actually prey upon human beings.
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Reply #29 - Apr 7th, 2014 at 12:19pm
 
GA wrote on Apr 7th, 2014 at 10:02am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:00pm:
Re: sharks being in rivers & estuaries because they are old, sick or pregnant is not correct. They inhabit these areas as normal parameters of their range & in all phases of a healthy existence. And not just bull sharks... Tigers, black tips, hammerheads.


Wow! Okay ...
(slowly backing out of the room .. )


Gnads wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:00pm:
Btw what point we're try to make when you quoted my comment about not being able to breath under water & listed all those air breathing marine mammals?


You said if it can't breathe under water then it's not supposed to be in the sea.

Another one's Salt Water crocodiles. The good old 'Saltie'. 


Salt Water crocodiles are one of the few creatures on earth that actually prey upon human beings.


They used to make great hand-bags and shoes I'm told - and some swear by croc sangers..
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