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Re: Sea: shark's territory
Reply #60 - Apr 8th, 2014 at 11:48pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2014 at 2:32pm:
The simplest solution that should please all parties is a portable net that surfers and beachgoers can take to any coastal waters and hang like a curtain in the water.

And then swim and surf within this protective curtain.






RAAF door gunners out of Williamtown used to shoot them up in the water....
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Reply #61 - Apr 9th, 2014 at 6:52am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2014 at 9:46pm:
I actually discussed the issue with some of the officials who harassed me over something else. I had not seen any such pamphlets. But I was vaguely aware that bears are dangerous. This one was small so I thought I could outrun it if necessary, and seemed scared of me. It kept half trying to climb a tree. I was very aware of my exit paths and kept checking for mother bears. Regarding the pamphlets, I had picked up that you should not leave food in your cars in national parks, as the bears will remove the door to get to it, and that you should make loud noises if they do this to scare them off. I was a bit worried about that one as I was sleeping in a van at the time. Apparently bears are also scared of small bells. I guess they must have retained some memory of being hunted by people for a few centuries.

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It's not Darwinian Evolution of the human species.


Sure it is. Social skills are the most important of all. You need skills to impress the ladies.


Your foray into Bear Country was a veritable compendium of 'What Not to Do' and 'How Not to Behave'. If you had rolled yourself in honey and gone naked in the woods you couldn't have set yourself up for a better chance at becoming a fatal statistic.

You're lucky you made it out alive.

First off you should have bought at least one can of bear deterrent...



Second, never go alone.

Also realise you will never be able to outrun a bear. (In this clip you'll hear a group of certifiable idiots laughing at the spectacle of sheep running for their lives).



And always tell the local police you'll be back at a certain time ~ guaranteed.

Bears have an almost super-natural ability to smell the slightest scent from miles away. Don't carry any food that isn't wrapped tight in oil paper.
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Reply #62 - Apr 9th, 2014 at 10:14am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2014 at 6:58pm:
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we had been blowing big sharks up for years, they never became extinct.


Because we put a stop to it.

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The study examined 59 fatal encounters between black bears and humans in Alaska, Canada and the Lower 48 during the 110 years


I think that is slightly more common than our shark attacks.

I followed a black bear for half an hour or so once in the eastern US. It was only a small one. It was getting dark, and the flash on my camera seemed to annoy it.

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We've effectively stopped evolving, from now on the process would relate to changes in society


Why is that not evolution? Teamwork has been a part of human evolution from the beginning. Our social skills are what set us apart and are the root of our intelligence. It is credited with our success over Homo Erectus.


Evolution is an 'effect' (rather than a force) brought about mostly by premature death. And as we are now preventing early deaths by all different means, those factors that lead to it in the biological sense are not being eliminated.  So we can say we are evolving socially (we aren't even doing that), but biologically we are in decline. The future could suit people of lower intelligence, logic being a late arrival can also possibly be a liability.  Don't accept this? Consider, the working class are more likely to have more children than are the higher classes, and sure the death rate among the 'hoon' types will be higher, but still that class represents a higher percentage of the population. And even if we were to have normal population control events like world wars these wont be having the same effect as they did in the past (the cannon fodder that the workers and their offspring were once used for wouldn't be needed).

And if we accept that the universe is 'Natural', then the glaring defect that will to a degree jeopardize a sustainable future would have to be the Y chromosome, something that will within the next few decades become redundant anyhow.
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