austranger wrote on Apr 24
th, 2014 at 11:38pm:
As I see it Islam today is going through something like the Christian churches went through in the Middle Ages and onwards, the Inquisition, Reformation etc etc.
It's just our bad luck that we're "living in interesting times", alla the old Chinese curse.
The "Global Village" brings that home to all of us instead of having somewhere to escape it's worst extremes though.
We can only hope they achieve some sort of stabilsation as a more peaceful religion sooner rather than later.
Dream about it.
'ISLAM is peace, and, political stabilisation.'
ISLAMIC groups 'lawfully' utilise extreme violence and political oppression as means to
gain legitimacy.
ISLAM regimes also 'lawfully' utilise extreme violence and political oppression to maintain their authority and legitimacy.
Extreme violence and political oppression is the modus operandi of the religious moslem i.e. of the 'rightly guided' moslem.
ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said,
"I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06
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Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).
And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan."
Koran 4.74-76i
somewhere else on ozpol....
Quote:The
DOCTRINALLY established moslem war strategy when overcoming an old regime [and whether it was an 'ill-favoured' moslem regime, or, and infidel regime, it is ALWAYS deemed by the new moslem victors to have been un-ISLAMIC e.g. Syria today, fighting the rebels, both sides claim to be the 'rightly guided' moslems] is to use
terror and violence, to consolidate their gains.
And the Koran itself, and other ISLAMIC 'religious' texts
do counsel such a path.
POINT #1,"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land....."
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/...Koran [8:67 above] meaning here, first moslems should beleaguer and slaughter their enemies in the land,
to terrorise, to cower them.
And then later, moslems will more easily be able to defeat, and enslave a pliant,
fearful enemy people.
In 'promoting' ISLAM to the whole earth, all REAL moslems understand, that terror is BOTH, the objective, and the method!
i.e.
#1,
ISLAMIC authority [government] is gained legitimately through the use of terror.
#2,
And, it is legitimate to maintain ISLAMIC authority through the use of terror.
POINT #2,Allah's Apostle said,
"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."
hadith/bukhari #004.052.220
".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."
hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062
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