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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Christian Right - salvation of a nation? Reply #45 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm Depends which creimes GA. Most violent crime is decreasing.
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Reply #46 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:37pm:

The feminization thing is simple, it's just is a little bit hard to explain for me with my poor word skills. It goes something like this: We are all humans and our humanness can be represented by the Chromosomes XX, with XY being the variation. Making us 'more human' in the balance of things on average than if somehow we could have turned out to be XX - YY, so we are softer than we are harder in effect. And because we can't separate ourselves from the rest of physical reality, as much as we might believe we are, the imbalance will represent itself as a 'force' if it's allowed to. The vector for this force, our soft-side, is the media, TV in particular. We are being pushed from the left in other words, and all things that might in some way represent our harder side, those thing we perceive as being in anyway patriarchal, will be under threat from this force. If the normal balance is not restored, logic is not given any say, the X will eventually destroy the Y completely, these things not being conscious decisions, but are a product of a deterministic reality.

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I also think your grasp of genetics needs work.

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Re: The Christian Right - salvation of a nation?
Reply #47 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:04pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 2:43pm:

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fezz wrote on Apr 15^th, 2014 at 4:50pm:

Take a trip around the wheatbelt towns of WA, you'll soon see how "inclusive' the EB are. Rule their own with an iron fist, generally have monopolies of town business through patient attrition and takeover, exclude the non EB members of town from dealings both public and private. But they are more than willing to fleece the non EB townsfolk of their hard earned with inflated prices on goods in a one price for us / one price for you deal.

OP, if this is the superior model you think will bring Australia back from where ever you think it is now...all I can say is I hope you are an EB believer, if not, you're not gonna have the existance you hope for.

They were presented as an example of a subculture that is at least being dynamic. They are actually moving forward rather than regressing like the 'Aussie' are presently doing.

Excellent, have they solved the NBN crisis?

They haven't got the contract.

And by the way which of the world's problems has Mensa ever solved.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Christian Right - salvation of a nation? Reply #48 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:06pm GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:04pm: They haven't got the contract. And by the way which of the world's problems has Mensa ever solved. Maybe so, but I'm not the one claiming Mensa are being dynamic and moving forward. I fail to see how a religious cult can move anything forward.
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GA Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1130 Gender:	Re: The Christian Right - salvation of a nation? Reply #49 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:06pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm: Depends which creimes GA. Most violent crime is decreasing. Violent crime should decrease as the Y factor is suppressed. And there is technology too playing a part in preventing violence.
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Reply #50 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:08pm

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:06pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm:

Depends which creimes GA. Most violent crime is decreasing.

Violent crime should decrease as the Y factor is suppressed. And there is technology too playing a part in preventing violence.

The Y factor? I suppose you mean the Y chromosome, but since theres a shitload of males around, I fail to see how its being suppressed. Maybe the alpha male bullshit is, but not the chromosome itself. If anything we'll gain chromosomes not lose them

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Reply #51 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:10pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm:

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:37pm:

The feminization thing is simple, it's just is a little bit hard to explain for me with my poor word skills. It goes something like this: We are all humans and our humanness can be represented by the Chromosomes XX, with XY being the variation. Making us 'more human' in the balance of things on average than if somehow we could have turned out to be XX - YY, so we are softer than we are harder in effect. And because we can't separate ourselves from the rest of physical reality, as much as we might believe we are, the imbalance will represent itself as a 'force' if it's allowed to. The vector for this force, our soft-side, is the media, TV in particular. We are being pushed from the left in other words, and all things that might in some way represent our harder side, those thing we perceive as being in anyway patriarchal, will be under threat from this force. If the normal balance is not restored, logic is not given any say, the X will eventually destroy the Y completely, these things not being conscious decisions, but are a product of a deterministic reality.

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I also think your grasp of genetics needs work.

Genetics don't come into it. It's the 'imbalance', not anything to do with our hormones or genes.

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Reply #52 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:11pm

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:10pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm:

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:37pm:

The feminization thing is simple, it's just is a little bit hard to explain for me with my poor word skills. It goes something like this: We are all humans and our humanness can be represented by the Chromosomes XX, with XY being the variation. Making us 'more human' in the balance of things on average than if somehow we could have turned out to be XX - YY, so we are softer than we are harder in effect. And because we can't separate ourselves from the rest of physical reality, as much as we might believe we are, the imbalance will represent itself as a 'force' if it's allowed to. The vector for this force, our soft-side, is the media, TV in particular. We are being pushed from the left in other words, and all things that might in some way represent our harder side, those thing we perceive as being in anyway patriarchal, will be under threat from this force. If the normal balance is not restored, logic is not given any say, the X will eventually destroy the Y completely, these things not being conscious decisions, but are a product of a deterministic reality.

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I also think your grasp of genetics needs work.

Genetics don't come into it. It's the 'imbalance', not anything to do with our hormones or genes.

Ummm, right. Considering you're talking about chromosomes, its genetics.

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Re: The Christian Right - salvation of a nation?
Reply #53 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:13pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:06pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm:

Depends which creimes GA. Most violent crime is decreasing.

Violent crime should decrease as the Y factor is suppressed. And there is technology too playing a part in preventing violence.

The Y factor? I suppose you mean the Y chromosome, but since theres a shitload of males around, I fail to see how its being suppressed. Maybe the alpha male bullshit is, but not the chromosome itself. If anything we'll gain chromosomes not lose them

There's an equal number of females to males, but not an equal number of X to Y. Which is not a problem in normal 'village' life. But we don't live in villages anymore, the 'wise-men' have no say in our lives, instead we have the idiot box telling us what is right or wrong.

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Reply #54 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:14pm

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:13pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:06pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm:

Depends which creimes GA. Most violent crime is decreasing.

Violent crime should decrease as the Y factor is suppressed. And there is technology too playing a part in preventing violence.

The Y factor? I suppose you mean the Y chromosome, but since theres a shitload of males around, I fail to see how its being suppressed. Maybe the alpha male bullshit is, but not the chromosome itself. If anything we'll gain chromosomes not lose them

There's an equal number of females to males, but not an equal number of X to Y. Which is not a problem in normal 'village' life. But we don't live in villages anymore, the 'wise-men' have no say in our lives, instead we have the idiot box telling us what is right or wrong.

True, but in terms of active Xs, its equal. IN females, 1 X chromosome takes control and asserts dominance and one is switched off. In males with we have one X that works and one Y that works.

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Re: The Christian Right - salvation of a nation?
Reply #55 - Apr 24^th, 2014 at 10:13am

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tickleandrose wrote on Apr 15^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

However, I argue that since the Industrial Revolution, our society have moved beyond just "Mother nature", which allow for more diverse and 'fair' society which have their advantages. For example, great minds like Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawkings, would have never survived in 'mother nature', but made significant and material contribution to our society.

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Sure, but even if you were right about most of what you've said whose rules do we follow. If it's Nature's then there is no rule that says anything about 'equality'. If it's God's then much the same applies. 'Equality' is a vector for control by the left (which is in itself a representation of our X chromosome) consequently it's hardly something that can be represented as being 'fair'.

Well, this really depend on what do you mean by "nature". If by nature, you meant Mother Nature, Earth nature. Then yes, it is not fair. It is cruel. It is a place where only the strongest survive. It is then a matter of personal choice. If people are content to be the sheep, to be lead and used by the wolves, then by all means do so. However, even with no Y chromosome, I dislike the idea of been controlled, and rather like to be the wolf if I had the choice. As such, if I was born in EB, I would have no choice but to become a sheep. So, to me, the EB represents a regressive force in the society.

Nature (when capitalized) means a naturally occurring random universe, as opposed to 'nature' all things not made by humankind.

And a 'determinist' would argue that your present position has been dictated to you in every-much the same way as it has a Brethren woman whose day might be made up doing entirely domestic duties. What I mean is suppose you were born with an identical twin sister who for one reason or another was adopted out to caring but childless Brethren couple, she would behave in many ways opposite to yourself, that's despite being genetically identical. 'Choice' would be an illusion in a Natural world.

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Re: The Christian Right - salvation of a nation?
Reply #56 - Apr 24^th, 2014 at 10:33am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:11pm:

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 4:10pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm:

GA wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:37pm:

The feminization thing is simple, it's just is a little bit hard to explain for me with my poor word skills. It goes something like this: We are all humans and our humanness can be represented by the Chromosomes XX, with XY being the variation. Making us 'more human' in the balance of things on average than if somehow we could have turned out to be XX - YY, so we are softer than we are harder in effect. And because we can't separate ourselves from the rest of physical reality, as much as we might believe we are, the imbalance will represent itself as a 'force' if it's allowed to. The vector for this force, our soft-side, is the media, TV in particular. We are being pushed from the left in other words, and all things that might in some way represent our harder side, those thing we perceive as being in anyway patriarchal, will be under threat from this force. If the normal balance is not restored, logic is not given any say, the X will eventually destroy the Y completely, these things not being conscious decisions, but are a product of a deterministic reality.

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I also think your grasp of genetics needs work.

Genetics don't come into it. It's the 'imbalance', not anything to do with our hormones or genes.

Ummm, right. Considering you're talking about chromosomes, its genetics.

The chromosomal imbalance 'symbolizes' the problem, it's not actually causing it in the clinical sense. The problem really is that the natural balance has been disrupted, shallow emotions are controlling the direction society is taking. We are upset (understandably) by school children being gunned down, but not by the far greater number of kids that would be dying from easily preventable reasons, why? Because they aren't on the TV, Why? because they are an old story that no longer sells.

So, if there were some way we could perform an 'X'-orcism', it would not improve the outlook for society, in fact it would only make it worse. We need to instead inject some logic back into the system. The only way to do this is politics, as it's not a problem for the 'majority' to be worrying about.

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Re: The Christian Right - salvation of a nation?
Reply #57 - Apr 24^th, 2014 at 12:16pm

GA wrote on Apr 15^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

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When Christianity had Europe in its grip, it was not called the Dark Ages for nothing.

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The Early Middle Ages (or Early Mediaeval Period) was the period of European history lasting from the 5th century to the 10th century. The Early Middle Ages followed the decline of the Western Roman Empire...The period saw a continuation of trends begun during late classical antiquity, including population decline, especially in urban centres, a decline of trade, and increased immigration. The period has been labelled the "Dark Ages", a characterization highlighting the relative scarcity of literary and cultural output from this time, especially in Western Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)

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...Christianity emerged in...the Roman Empire in 380...

Christianity became common to all of Europe in the Middle Ages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Europe

Fall of the Western Roman Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Western_Roman_Empire

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