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Re: I don't trust the Salvos anymore
Reply #75 - Apr 16^th, 2014 at 5:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

methinks you protesteth too much,

my observation remains generally accurat

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 3:28pm:

is the amount the same still? excuse my cynicsm but Ive heard it all before.

well I will tell you this you dont observe well..
and as for making the claim about how much they give..what about YOU...tell us your fav charity.. or is it yourself??>.

you are so judgemental..if you had trod the path that schu and his family have trodden.. I would say you are just being honest.. but this sounds like you dont give a damn just quietly..

I have argued with you in the past about your support of paedophiles..and this is the same thing..these kids were prayed upon by people who everyone thought was caring for them..and all you want to know is..

why would you stop giving your charity dollar to them... what happened was ages ago move on..

schu isnt asking you to stop giving to them..

I do not believe you have children.. or any close relatives with children..your attitude towards them/children is not healthy.

if something awful happens to you as a child it just doesnt go away.its not like a bandaid on a scratch

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Re: I don't trust the Salvos anymore
Reply #76 - Apr 16^th, 2014 at 5:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 4:35pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 3:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 3:28pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 1:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 12:41pm:

My observation and experience continues to demonstrate that as a rule, people who complain about the past history of salvos or the like and carry on about failures and weakness of such groups DONT give at all to anyone. There ar ea few like yourself, but you are a rarity. John Smith proves the point.

Your observations and experience suck.

I used to give to many organisations, but now with the help of the internet I can find out where the money is really going, so I have crossed most of the benefactors off my list. I give directly to the needy these days, no middle man, advertising company or CEO getting my hard earned, charity is big business.

is the amount the same still? excuse my cynicsm but Ive heard it all before.

I just pointed out that people who stop giving to charities that protect crime and corruption still give.

What on earth has the amount got to do with anything?

EVERYTHING.

WHY??????

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Re: I don't trust the Salvos anymore
Reply #77 - Apr 16^th, 2014 at 6:06pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 3:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 3:28pm:

I just pointed out that people who stop giving to charities that protect crime and corruption still give.

What on earth has the amount got to do with anything?

EVERYTHING.

I wouldn't have a clue how much I give, unlike you I don't put a set amount in the tythe bag, I give a lot, care packages for the orphanages, and food packages directly to the poor when I'm overseas so it's not tax deductible, beggars don't give receipts. I often give food to homeless locals which would be the equivalent of $50 to a NGO where $30 would be eaten up by admin costs. Besides, Aussie charities aren't happy to take five dollars cash now, they want you to commit to monthly direct debits, so they miss out on all that loose change by being greedy.

It's all swings and roundabouts, just a different delivery method. No cash to NGO'S, anywhere. I know exactly where my donations go and that's how I like it.

If you're fishing for a monetary figure, bad luck you won't get it from me.

HAPPY?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Re: I don't trust the Salvos anymore
Reply #78 - Apr 16^th, 2014 at 10:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 3:26pm:

Schu wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2014 at 12:41pm:

Which assumes two things. First, that there's something wrong with not giving. There isn't. Second, that those reasons are unjustified excuses for not giving. They aren't. The only way it could be determined if those were merely excuses rather than reasons would be if all the various organisations cleaned up their act and changed some of their systems.

and to be fair, that is EXACTLY the reasons people use for not giving. When you talk about the salvos etc you are after all referring to incidents many decades past.

When I was about 10 I overhead two teachers referring to a girl in my year whose 'father visited her in her bedroom many nights a week'. At the time I had no idea what they meant. But they did nothing about it. and why was that? Because society - ALL OF SOCIETY - essentially tolerated and excused it. but it was decades ago as well. I don't still say that teachers are evil.

You seem to think that people are obliged to give to charities. They aren't. That's why it's charity not tax. A person can say, "I don't donate because I don't want to" and they're perfectly entitled to that. It's also disingenuous to assume that everyone who has a reason is merely using that as an unjustified excuse. Many people don't like the ideology, operations and dissemination of money of many charities and that is their prerogative. That so many people baulk at donating to charities may be because of the way the charities behave and say nothing about the people.

As for your example, just because the acts happened years ago doesn't mean that the structures that existed to enable them have been changed. It is only in the last few years that many organisations have been forced to admit, begrudgingly, that they protected abusers. Some senior members of various organisations still deny it. So it's hardly in the past and it will take a long time before I, for one, have any faith that they've changed.

Yes, many people turned a blind eye in the past. But there were people who spoke up about it and they were punished for doing so.

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Reply #79 - Apr 19^th, 2014 at 6:58am

Is anyone surprised at this?

It's been a no-brainer ever since Muslim Australians and naive Useful Idiots were sent to the Detention Centres as ... 'interpreters'.

5th Columnists.

And then the Salvos ...

A Christmas Island resident has expressed disgust to The Pickering Post at how Salvation Army employees, supported by Iranian and Afghani interpreters, have been instructing arrivals on how to cheat the system.

“It’s beyond belief how we are paying them to actually coach the illegal arrivals to circumvent Australian regulations”, he said.

The Left wing Guardian On-line has dishonestly reported how distressed Iranian “asylum seekers” had made the journey without sanitation and arrived covered in faeces.

“That’s simply not true said the resident”, who asked not to be named. “I’ve seen every boat arrive here and it seemed like most had been shopping at Harrods.

“Many women had bandages on their noses (see pics supplied) which we later found to have been nose jobs undergone en route in Malaysia. Some women had recent breast augmentations and had demanded mirrors so they could see how they looked.”

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29645 Gender:	Re: I don't trust the Salvos anymore Reply #80 - Apr 19^th, 2014 at 3:35pm They don't look like your run of the mill queue jumping Middle easterners, their women are usually dressed from head to toe,,,, they look white & Polynesian.
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