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Reply #30 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:45pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

Alinta wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

Hey Bobby.........trying to get my head around this.....did your friend plead guilty to the pooch charges????

Yes he did even though he was not guilty.

It was:
(1) a dog at large - ( the gate wasn't properly shut & his dog was no more than 5 meters from the front gate)
(2) his dog biting another dog - ( false as there was no mark or injury )

The dog is super friendly & wouldn't harm an ant.

He followed his lawyers advice because he was told it would cost $7,000 to defend otherwise.
It still cost him $2,000 which included a barrister for $500 to read out a silly statement full of falsehoods & fake remorse.

Now he doesn't want to pay his lawyer.

like I said they charge like wounded bulls and never guarantee their work Sad

What sort of guarantee do you expect a Lawyer to give you?

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30095 Gender:	Re: $360 an hour for a solicitor ! Why ? Reply #31 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:46pm Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:44pm: The Barrister would have done more than merely read word for word from the Statement. What was the $1500.00 paid to the Solicitor for? What did s/he do? probably went and bought a small table from Gainsville for his bedroom
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106314 Melbourne Gender:	Re: $360 an hour for a solicitor ! Why ? Reply #32 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:48pm Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:44pm: The Barrister would have done more than merely read word for word from the Statement. What was the $1500.00 paid to the Solicitor for? What did s/he do? It's called - making money from selling old rope.
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Reply #33 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:50pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:45pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

Alinta wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

Hey Bobby.........trying to get my head around this.....did your friend plead guilty to the pooch charges????

Yes he did even though he was not guilty.

It was:
(1) a dog at large - ( the gate wasn't properly shut & his dog was no more than 5 meters from the front gate)
(2) his dog biting another dog - ( false as there was no mark or injury )

The dog is super friendly & wouldn't harm an ant.

He followed his lawyers advice because he was told it would cost $7,000 to defend otherwise.
It still cost him $2,000 which included a barrister for $500 to read out a silly statement full of falsehoods & fake remorse.

Now he doesn't want to pay his lawyer.

like I said they charge like wounded bulls and never guarantee their work Sad

What sort of guarantee do you expect a Lawyer to give you?

I don't know. Perhaps a no-win-no-fee guarantee would be fair Wink

When I pay for goods I expect to get something that works and is fit for its intended purpose and if it breaks down I expect to get it repaired or replaced !! Some how that rule doesn't apply to high priced legal services Sad

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Re: $360 an hour for a solicitor ! Why ?
Reply #34 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:54pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:45pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

Alinta wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

Hey Bobby.........trying to get my head around this.....did your friend plead guilty to the pooch charges????

Yes he did even though he was not guilty.

It was:
(1) a dog at large - ( the gate wasn't properly shut & his dog was no more than 5 meters from the front gate)
(2) his dog biting another dog - ( false as there was no mark or injury )

The dog is super friendly & wouldn't harm an ant.

He followed his lawyers advice because he was told it would cost $7,000 to defend otherwise.
It still cost him $2,000 which included a barrister for $500 to read out a silly statement full of falsehoods & fake remorse.

Now he doesn't want to pay his lawyer.

like I said they charge like wounded bulls and never guarantee their work Sad

What sort of guarantee do you expect a Lawyer to give you?

I don't know. Perhaps a no-win-no-fee guarantee would be fair Wink

When I pay for goods I expect to get something that works and is fit for its intended purpose and if it breaks down I expect to get it repaired or replaced !! Some how that rule doesn't apply to high priced legal services Sad

Hear hear Nail,
& that no win no fee thing is a scam -
you still have to pay the costs of the other party if you lose.

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Reply #35 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

The Barrister would have done more than merely read word for word from the Statement.

What was the $1500.00 paid to the Solicitor for? What did s/he do?

It's called - making money from selling old rope.

What penalty did the Magistrate order?????

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Reply #36 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:56pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

These are people who produce nothing except some words on a bit of paper and never guarantee their work but charge like wounded bulls. Why do they value their work so much ?

Is it because they have no real competition and have wrangled the system so we can't have competition from abroad ?

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$360 an hour for a solicitor ! Why ?

According to some here that would be because of supply & demand Grin

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Reply #37 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 3:05pm

Alinta wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

The Barrister would have done more than merely read word for word from the Statement.

What was the $1500.00 paid to the Solicitor for? What did s/he do?

It's called - making money from selling old rope.

What penalty did the Magistrate order?????

It was a large fine but I won't give the exact amount
because the matter is really confidential.

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Reply #38 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 3:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 3:05pm:

Alinta wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

The Barrister would have done more than merely read word for word from the Statement.

What was the $1500.00 paid to the Solicitor for? What did s/he do?

It's called - making money from selling old rope.

What penalty did the Magistrate order?????

It was a large fine but I won't give the exact amount
because the matter is really confidential.

OK, respect that.

I'm assuming (perhaps erroneously) that the Council issued an Infringement Notice with an amount to be paid for the listed offence/s ....or, an option to have the matter dealt with by the court. Clearly your mate chose the latter and I wondered how much difference between the original penalty and the court fine.

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Reply #39 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 3:31pm

Alinta wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 3:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 3:05pm:

Alinta wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

The Barrister would have done more than merely read word for word from the Statement.

What was the $1500.00 paid to the Solicitor for? What did s/he do?

It's called - making money from selling old rope.

What penalty did the Magistrate order?????

It was a large fine but I won't give the exact amount
because the matter is really confidential.

OK, respect that.

I'm assuming (perhaps erroneously) that the Council issued an Infringement Notice with an amount to be paid for the listed offence/s ....or, an option to have the matter dealt with by the court. Clearly your mate chose the latter and I wondered how much difference between the original penalty and the court fine.

I don't know Alinta -
but it seemed overly harsh for leaving the gate open for a dog which did no harm.

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Reply #40 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 4:31pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 2:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

These are people who produce nothing except some words on a bit of paper and never guarantee their work but charge like wounded bulls. Why do they value their work so much ?

Is it because they have no real competition and have wrangled the system so we can't have competition from abroad ?

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$360 an hour for a solicitor ! Why ?

According to some here that would be because of supply & demand Grin

Supply and demand covers most things.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29856 Gender:	Re: $360 an hour for a solicitor ! Why ? Reply #41 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 6:18pm Quote: Supply and demand covers most things. Yeah a blanket cover for profiteering The Law Society & the AMA ... two of the biggest closed shop Unions in the country. Where's the usual suspect Union bashers in regards to this lot?
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Reply #42 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 6:25pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 6:18pm:

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Supply and demand covers most things.

Yeah a blanket cover for profiteering Angry

The Law Society & the AMA ... two of the biggest closed shop Unions in the country.

Where's the usual suspect Union bashers in regards to this lot? Roll Eyes

I don't 'get' the point. What is it?

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29856 Gender:	Re: $360 an hour for a solicitor ! Why ? Reply #43 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 6:27pm Really? ...& you know everything ... what a shock.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38826 Gender:	Re: $360 an hour for a solicitor ! Why ? Reply #44 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 6:30pm Gnads wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 6:27pm: Really? ...& you know everything ... what a shock. Hardly. What is the point you are trying to make?
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