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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Bank Error In your Favour - Hold One Million Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:20pm Through a bank error your account is deposited one million dollars. What do you do? You don't spend it. You don't spend the interest it earns. You don't use it as collateral for a loan. And... You don't inform the bank of the error. Have you committed a crime?
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Bank Error In your Favour - Hold One Million Reply #1 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:27pm because of the last point i think you have
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Reply #2 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:29pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:27pm:

because of the last point i think you have

Are you sure?

Of course, it could be argued you have not acted ethically... You have been 'unjustly enriched'.

However, you have not profited from this enrichment.

From a legal perspective (not an ethical one) have you committed a crime?

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Reply #3 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:37pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:29pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:27pm:

because of the last point i think you have

Are you sure?

Of course, it could be argued you have not acted ethically... You have been 'unjustly enriched'.

However, you have not profited from this enrichment.

From a legal perspective (not an ethical one) have you committed a crime?

By not informing yes.

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Reply #4 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:43pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:29pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:27pm:

because of the last point i think you have

Are you sure?

Of course, it could be argued you have not acted ethically... You have been 'unjustly enriched'.

However, you have not profited from this enrichment.

From a legal perspective (not an ethical one) have you committed a crime?

By not informing yes.

This is a carry over from another Thread, but I'll play a bit.

How quickly must one inform the Bank, Mr Farian? If there is an obligation to inform, there surely must be a time limit.

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Reply #5 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:46pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:29pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:27pm:

because of the last point i think you have

Are you sure?

Of course, it could be argued you have not acted ethically... You have been 'unjustly enriched'.

However, you have not profited from this enrichment.

From a legal perspective (not an ethical one) have you committed a crime?

By not informing yes.

Then you will need to quote an Australian case and/or the section of the Act which declares it is a crime and the circumstances by which it is a crime.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74452 Gender:	Re: Bank Error In your Favour - Hold One Million Reply #6 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:48pm It should be a like the rules when you have something sent to you accidently ... inform the sender that they made an error and they have 3 months to collect, don't inform them and they have 6 months ... after which the goods are yours.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Bank Error In your Favour - Hold One Million Reply #7 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:49pm Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:43pm: [ How quickly must one inform the Bank, Mr Farian? If there is an obligation to inform, there surely must be a time limit. Why? The question here hinges on whether or not you intended to keep the money in your account.
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Reply #8 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:53pm

ian wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:43pm:

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How quickly must one inform the Bank, Mr Farian? If there is an obligation to inform, there surely must be a time limit.

Why? The question here hinges on whether or not you intended to keep the money in your account.

If you do not profit from your 'intention', how have you been enriched?

Case and/or Act, otherwise its not a crime.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Bank Error In your Favour - Hold One Million Reply #9 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:57pm http://www.banks.com.au/news/bank-errors-in-your-favour/ Its not a case, but if you dont return it the banks would try and get its return and you'd be forced to give it back crime or not. If you ignore it would be a crime.
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Reply #10 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 9:02pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:57pm:

http://www.banks.com.au/news/bank-errors-in-your-favour/

Its not a case, but if you dont return it the banks would try and get its return and you'd be forced to give it back crime or not. If you ignore it would be a crime.

You don't intend to dispute the error nor challenge/resist a reversal when (or if) it is finally discovered.

However, six months has now passed and the money and the interest is still unspent and therefore is still recoverable by the bank at any time.

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Reply #11 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 9:05pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 9:02pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:57pm:

http://www.banks.com.au/news/bank-errors-in-your-favour/

Its not a case, but if you dont return it the banks would try and get its return and you'd be forced to give it back crime or not. If you ignore it would be a crime.

You don't intend to dispute the error nor challenge/resist a reversal when it is finally discovered.

However, six months has now passed and the money and the interest is still unspent and therefore is still recoverable by the bank at any time.

I think the problem with your hypothetical is no bank would let it go that long

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Reply #12 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 9:06pm

ian wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:43pm:

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How quickly must one inform the Bank, Mr Farian? If there is an obligation to inform, there surely must be a time limit.

Why? The question here hinges on whether or not you intended to keep the money in your account.

How about I have nil intention.

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Reply #13 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 9:08pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 9:06pm:

ian wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:43pm:

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How quickly must one inform the Bank, Mr Farian? If there is an obligation to inform, there surely must be a time limit.

Why? The question here hinges on whether or not you intended to keep the money in your account.

How about I have nil intention.

But thats not the premise of the OP.

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Reply #14 - Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 9:08pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 9:05pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 9:02pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 8:57pm:

http://www.banks.com.au/news/bank-errors-in-your-favour/

Its not a case, but if you dont return it the banks would try and get its return and you'd be forced to give it back crime or not. If you ignore it would be a crime.

You don't intend to dispute the error nor challenge/resist a reversal when it is finally discovered.

However, six months has now passed and the money and the interest is still unspent and therefore is still recoverable by the bank at any time.

I think the problem with your hypothetical is no bank would let it go that long

Well, its my hypothetical and I say the bank has not discovered the error for six months so far.

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