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Australia Not In The Midst Of Budget Crisis.
Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:07am
 
Aust not in midst of budget crisis: Labor

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    April 24, 2014
    The Age

Labor has dismissed Treasurer Joe Hockey's warnings about the spiralling costs of welfare, health and other government spending.      Huh

In a speech in Sydney on Wednesday night, Mr Hockey unveiled some details from the soon-to-be-released commission of audit, which shows government spending has almost tripled in the past 40 years.

Over the medium term, the commission expects the 15 largest and fastest growing programs to be welfare, health, education and defence - in most cases growing considerably faster than the economy.

Mr Hockey flagged cuts across the board in the May budget, adding that a greater reliance on means testing and co-payments could be on the way.

Opposition finance spokesman Tony Burke rubbished the treasurer's bleak portrait of the budget.

"Countries that have triple-A credit ratings are not in the midst of a budget crisis," Mr Burke told ABC Radio on Thursday.

"None of the information that Joe Hockey's referring to there is new. They're wanting to pretend that they've just realised this through the commission of audit."

In his speech, Mr Hockey made particular mention of the pension, following speculation the government would increase the retirement age to 70.   Angry        

The $40 billion spent annually on the aged pension was more than that given to defence, hospitals or schools, Mr Hockey said.

Mr Burke said the government was simply laying the groundwork for changes to the aged pension, breaking an election promise.      Sad

The commission of audit is due to be released next week.

It report makes 86 recommendations, but Mr Hockey says he will not automatically accept all them.

"Some can be actioned in the short term, others require further consideration and some will be rejected outright," he said in his speech on Wednesday.

Shadow assistant treasurer Andrew Leigh accused Mr Hockey of playing political games with the budget, after blocking the previous Labor government's savings measures when in opposition.      Sad

The treasurer should acknowledge the fiscal impact of coalition decisions to scrap measures such as the mining and carbon taxes, he said.

"What we've got now from Joe Hockey is really the shadow treasurer in drag," Dr Leigh told ABC Radio.
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Reply #1 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:09am
 
Hockeys a fool with a calculator .... he should never be allowed near the budget
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Reply #2 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:20am
 
Budget emergency my butt

scrap the $12 B on planes that don't fly ....    there's $12B
scrap the tax benefits to super ................    another $13B
scrap handouts to mining /energy sector ..... another $5B

thats $30 Billion saved just there ... I'm sure if I went through the budget they'd be a lot more

the government is being run by cretins who are only looking to line their own pockets or protect their own future interests
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Reply #3 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:27am
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:20am:
Budget emergency my butt

scrap the $12 B on planes that don't fly ....    there's $12B
scrap the tax benefits to super ................    another $13B
scrap handouts to mining /energy sector ..... another $5B

thats $30 Billion saved just there ... I'm sure if I went through the budget they'd be a lot more

the government is being run by cretins who are only looking to line their own pockets or protect their own future interests



Yes.

I'd also add:

a/ Scrap the ridiculous wealthfare-driven PPL scam.

b/ Scrap the stupid idea of repealing the carbon LEVY and the mining tax.

This useless excuse for a government has been lying constantly about the state of the budget/economy
since pre-Gillard days, it's incredible that the sheeple haven't seen through the lies yet.

These Lib 'destructos' should never have been given power, and have more than demonstrated why.
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Reply #4 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:32am
 
Wow, Labor and the rusted-on are desperate to hide just how badly they screwed up over the previous six years! Grin
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Reply #5 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:44am
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:09am:
Hockeys a fool with a calculator .... he should never be allowed near the budget


I saw an interview with him last night and he seems to make all the right noises - but I still think he is an ideologue following the bleatings of his master The Mad Monk going, 'must balance the budget, must balance the budget, must balance the budget,...'

And that is what I think makes him dangerous. Basically every thing I read and hear tells me Australia is in a pretty good economic and social position, no drastic measures are required. There are some big issue on the horizon which need to be addressed but the mindless ideologue/slogan driven cutting the of the budget may not be the only or best way forward, neither economically or socially.

Hockey seems to have the right understanding but he seems to have come to the wrong conclusions. If this is just a smokescreen so that when the budget is announced everyone goes 'well that not so bad, what were we worried about' remains to be seen.

But I'm on edge and I have a knot in the stomach waiting  Lips Sealed.
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Reply #6 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:49am
 
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Opposition finance spokesman Tony Burke rubbished the treasurer's bleak portrait of the budget.

"Countries that have triple-A credit ratings are not in the midst of a budget crisis," Mr Burke told ABC Radio on Thursday.


What an idiot Burke is.

This is one reason these stupid Labor R-soles should never be in Govt.

Risk ratings are about ability to service debts.  If you don't balance the books you are eventually going to be insolvent and the rating will sink.

The tripple A was won by the Howard Govt.  Labor did their level best to trash it.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:32am:
Wow, Labor and the rusted-on are desperate to hide just how badly they screwed up over the previous six years! Grin


And not that the welded on ideologues from the conservative side would ever tell a fib or make an exaggeration to make out that the 'the sky is falling and it was all caused by those rotten spendthrifts socialists', would they?

Which is wrong with the public debate; everyone takes extreme adversary positions and try to score ego pleasing Brownie Points rather than look for the Truth  Roll Eyes.
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Reply #8 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:52am
 
Swagman wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:49am:
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Opposition finance spokesman Tony Burke rubbished the treasurer's bleak portrait of the budget.

"Countries that have triple-A credit ratings are not in the midst of a budget crisis," Mr Burke told ABC Radio on Thursday.


What an idiot Burke is.

This is one reason these stupid Labor R-soles should never be in Govt.

Risk ratings are about ability to service debts.  If you don't balance the books you are eventually going to be insolvent and the rating will sink.

The tripple A was won by the Howard Govt.  Labor did their level best to trash it.



That is an out-and-out mistruth. It was directly a result of Labor's success in getting us through the GFC.

The only 'budget crisis' we have is that we have a blatantly out-of-his-depth incompetent in charge of it.

Burke is correct, you are not. And nor is Hockey.
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Reply #9 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:55am
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:20am:
Budget emergency my butt

scrap the $12 B on planes that don't fly ....    there's $12B
scrap the tax benefits to super ................    another $13B
scrap handouts to mining /energy sector ..... another $5B

thats $30 Billion saved just there ... I'm sure if I went through the budget they'd be a lot more

the government is being run by cretins who are only looking to line their own pockets or protect their own future interests



OR

you could cut the dole
get rid of single-parent welfare
get rid of income supplements


there is more than enough there to cover the deficit.

See, I can choose expenditures that don't affect me too!
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Re: Australia Not In The Midst Of Budget Crisis.
Reply #10 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:56am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:32am:
Wow, Labor and the rusted-on are desperate to hide just how badly they screwed up over the previous six years! Grin






TONY JONES: One message you drummed home to Joe Hockey in that interview was, "You don't know how lucky you are," more or less, that the Australian Government is in a remarkably good economic position by comparison to other countries in the G20. Do you think he's actually making out the economy to be worse than it is?

ANDREW NEIL: I can't think of a Finance minister in the Western world that wouldn't give their left arm to be in the position of the Australian Government.

I mean, national debt of 23 per cent. You want to know how much it is in Italy? 132 per cent of GDP. Greece: 170 per cent. Even the United Kingdom: 80 per cent; using other criteria, as much as 100 per cent. A deficit of three per cent every year. Now these are figures you may want to deal with, but you're not dealing with a crisis compared to the situation in Europe or even the United States


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-23/australia-not-in-an-economic-crisis/540792...



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Reply #11 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:00am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:55am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:20am:
Budget emergency my butt

scrap the $12 B on planes that don't fly ....    there's $12B
scrap the tax benefits to super ................    another $13B
scrap handouts to mining /energy sector ..... another $5B

thats $30 Billion saved just there ... I'm sure if I went through the budget they'd be a lot more

the government is being run by cretins who are only looking to line their own pockets or protect their own future interests



OR

you could cut the dole
get rid of single-parent welfare
get rid of income supplements


there is more than enough there to cover the deficit.

See, I can choose expenditures that don't affect me too!



Why does that not surprise me, coming from you?

You've always been pro-wealthfare and anti-welfare.
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Reply #12 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:08am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:55am:
you could cut the dole
get rid of single-parent welfare
get rid of income supplements



And have major social disruption and disorder that will have a negative effect on the country for 20 + years, and cause a recession. Excellent  Roll Eyes.

And of course you will continue with corporate and middle and upper class welfare and subsidies for inefficient industries. Excellent  Roll Eyes.
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Reply #13 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:17am
 
Kat wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:52am:
Swagman wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:49am:
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Opposition finance spokesman Tony Burke rubbished the treasurer's bleak portrait of the budget.

"Countries that have triple-A credit ratings are not in the midst of a budget crisis," Mr Burke told ABC Radio on Thursday.


What an idiot Burke is.

This is one reason these stupid Labor R-soles should never be in Govt.

Risk ratings are about ability to service debts.  If you don't balance the books you are eventually going to be insolvent and the rating will sink.

The tripple A was won by the Howard Govt.  Labor did their level best to trash it.



That is an out-and-out mistruth.

Burke is correct, you are not.


Really El Katto. 

Feel free to elaborate on your Laborite propaganda... Huh
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Reply #14 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:20am
 
Abbott is running a fear campaign. It's what he's been taught and knows how to do well.

These new austerity measures are to prepare us for a serious drop in our wages and living standards pushed along by the signing of the recent FTA's and the proposed one with China.

Abbott thinks by stripping away the security of much of the population we'll accept lower wages and pensions and be grateful for whatever we can get. Not a bad idea in theory, but there's going to be a serious backlash.

Gillard shouldn't have given into the protests of the people when she tried to reduce services or cut back on the welfare which Howard had so generously introduced when he was pork-barreling for an election.

Abbott will get the support from the big inter/national corporations for these stringent new measures. If we complain - then they'll just import thousands more 457 visa workers. As these imports will no longer be regulated - we'll have to compete with them or become beggars.

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457 visa workers exploited at Rinehart's Roy Hill

The Federal Government is being asked to investigate claims that 457 work visas are being abused at Gina Rinehart's $10 billion Roy Hill iron ore project in the Pilbara.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-04/cfmeu-alleges-457-visa-workers-exploited-b...

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