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Reply #15 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 5:24pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:39pm:
I don't mind Chuck and Cammie - seriously - what have they done wrong?  Chuck is OK - any man who talks to his plants and encourages them to grow is fine by me - and Cammie is just Cammie - not some ogre.

It's no big deal these days that she was no virgin on marriage etc and that they chanced to meet between the sheets a million times...

Mind you - I wouldn't be after her myself unless she had.. exceptional talents.....

They didn't kill Diana - and seriously, Di should have known that the upper class have their marriages and their discreet dalliances to allay the thirst of frustration etc.... who wants a blue balled King?



Just because them having affairs was/is status wuo, it doesn't make it right.

Charles and the others used Diana, and the way that they treated her is beyond contempt.

I still believe that she woukd still be alive if it weren't for that.
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Reply #16 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 5:24pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
john_g wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 2:59pm:
I'm with buzz on this one.

For whatever reason, a lot of Australians think that Charles will abdicate and give the role to William.

Not going to happen, Charles has coveted the position for pretty much his entire life.

Now, what Australian out there wants King Charles and Queen Camilla? Because once the Queen passes, that will be our reality, Charles as our Head of state.




Yes, Charles will be the King of Australia.

Won't that be just wonderful?




The short answer is no.
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Reply #17 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 5:47pm
 
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Reply #18 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 5:49pm
 
Attitudes might change when we have a fag hag for queen.
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Reply #19 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 7:36pm
 
We need to kick out the royal family and become a republic with an elected President/GG.

Yes elected, no that is not the US system. Our GG or president has no executive power, the POTUS is military CiC and head of the US Public Service.

I do NOT want our Head of State to be a puppet appointed by the PM (or by Parliament which is the same thing.)

Until we symbolically cut the apron strings to the UK we cannot move into the Asian century.
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Reply #20 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:10pm
 
As I understand it, most Aussies would like a Republic with the Head of State popularly elected, and with some realistic power over the politicians in his/her back pocket. To achieve that our political masters would have to agree, and does anyone really think that is ever going to happen?
Look at how they infiltrated and twisted that last gab-fest on the question, they designed a question they already knew no Aussie would ever agree to.
Don't hold your breath for a change this century, nor possibly the next either, nobody in power ever willingly lets go, do they?
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Reply #21 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:45pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:50pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:39pm:
I don't mind Chuck and Cammie - seriously - what have they done wrong?  Chuck is OK - any man who talks to his plants and encourages them to grow is fine by me - and Cammie is just Cammie - not some ogre.

It's no big deal these days that she was no virgin on marriage etc and that they chanced to meet between the sheets a million times...

Mind you - I wouldn't be after her myself unless she had.. exceptional talents.....

They didn't kill Diana - and seriously, Di should have known that the upper class have their marriages and their discreet dalliances to allay the thirst of frustration etc.... who wants a blue balled King?





very true live and let live..we could have a system like they have in Nth Korea... Angry..

where the son and heir kills his ex girl friend...and feeds his uncle to the dogs..

I think I will settle for Chas..


Having King Charles or a North Korean system are not the only options.
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Reply #22 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:54pm
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 7:36pm:
We need to kick out the royal family and become a republic with an elected President/GG.

Yes elected, no that is not the US system. Our GG or president has no executive power, the POTUS is military CiC and head of the US Public Service.

I do NOT want our Head of State to be a puppet appointed by the PM (or by Parliament which is the same thing.)

Until we symbolically cut the apron strings to the UK we cannot move into the Asian century.


Hear, hear!  The Honourable Member for Vat I Can Brew has spoken!

Take a jelly bean and a gold star....
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Reply #23 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:58pm
 
austranger wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:10pm:
As I understand it, most Aussies would like a Republic with the Head of State popularly elected, and with some realistic power over the politicians in his/her back pocket. To achieve that our political masters would have to agree, and does anyone really think that is ever going to happen?
Look at how they infiltrated and twisted that last gab-fest on the question, they designed a question they already knew no Aussie would ever agree to.
Don't hold your breath for a change this century, nor possibly the next either, nobody in power ever willingly lets go, do they?


Indeed - the whole show was twisted to give the answer the pollies wanted - THEIR elected eunuch as a 'President'.  In order to attain that end they loaded the 'commission with the faithful and gullible and feministed school kids who thought their wildest dreams had come true and they were actively running the show for us... (god help us - these kids actually believe in global warming and that affirmative action for girls/women is the only way things should be)....

We, The People as Sovereign wanted a popularly elected president with powers and a genuine set of checks and balances.

A jelly bean and a gold star for you again.
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Reply #24 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:05pm
 
john_g wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 5:24pm:
I still believe that she woukd still be alive if it weren't for that.


And if she hadn't been riding in that satanic hearse with an Ay-Rab lover and a Franche pilot for a driver...  sounds like James Bond was on the motor cycle with the camera.

Take a look at the series of photos of Henri Paul and the bodyguard and check the line of the light from that photographer.......... not only that, but the look on Paul's face is shock - not startled surprise at sudden light....

Mon Dieu - MERDE!

Now HTF would a seasoned driver and pilot grab at the wheel and swerve into a post instead of his training and senses taking over and him keeping a straight line regardless until his sight returned?

...


Trust me - that is what that kind of training will give you....

...


Note that his hand has changed position on the wheel - either he was committing suicide or he was swerving to avoid .... what?
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Reply #25 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:12pm
 
austranger wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:10pm:
As I understand it, most Aussies would like a Republic with the Head of State popularly elected, and with some realistic power over the politicians in his/her back pocket. To achieve that our political masters would have to agree, and does anyone really think that is ever going to happen?
Look at how they infiltrated and twisted that last gab-fest on the question, they designed a question they already knew no Aussie would ever agree to.
Don't hold your breath for a change this century, nor possibly the next either, nobody in power ever willingly lets go, do they?

The GG—and President—have the reserve powers. Kerr found a use for those.
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Reply #26 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:19pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:05pm:
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Note that his hand has changed position on the wheel - either he was committing suicide or he was swerving to avoid .... what?


Looks like he's playing with the wrong gear stick. Grin
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Reply #27 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:21pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:45pm:
cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:50pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:39pm:
I don't mind Chuck and Cammie - seriously - what have they done wrong?  Chuck is OK - any man who talks to his plants and encourages them to grow is fine by me - and Cammie is just Cammie - not some ogre.

It's no big deal these days that she was no virgin on marriage etc and that they chanced to meet between the sheets a million times...

Mind you - I wouldn't be after her myself unless she had.. exceptional talents.....

They didn't kill Diana - and seriously, Di should have known that the upper class have their marriages and their discreet dalliances to allay the thirst of frustration etc.... who wants a blue balled King?





very true live and let live..we could have a system like they have in Nth Korea... Angry..

where the son and heir kills his ex girl friend...and feeds his uncle to the dogs..

I think I will settle for Chas..


Having King Charles or a North Korean system are not the only options.


Why can't you see the world in black and white like any rational, sane person like Cods? Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:23pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:19pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 9:05pm:
http://www.thevoiceofreason.co.uk/BestBits/2007/10/images/HenriPaul.jpg


Note that his hand has changed position on the wheel - either he was committing suicide or he was swerving to avoid .... what?


Looks like he's playing with the wrong gear stick. Grin


Maybe.. I hope Diana is enjoying life in the Bahamas on that secluded island.....

P.S.  shoulda run over the bastard rather than swerve and kill more....
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Reply #29 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 10:11pm
 
Why don't we have a president elected like this

We have had a debate about how the President is, or isn’t, appointed — so I won’t go back into that. The President has to be above politics, so how is he or she appointed if he or she is going to be above politics?

The community could nominate people who have received Australia’s highest medal – with the Companion of the Order of Australia (AC) – for consideration by the Federal or their State government. Then, all the governments – Federal, State and Territories – with the support of all political parties, could nominate three or four people from those to be put forward. This group would then be put to an Australia wide vote of the people to elect six members to form a team of 5 years called the Presidential Select Committee, which would sit only when required, or if the President or the chairperson of the Presidential Select Committee ask for them to meet. It should be chaired by any one of the justices from the High Court. The committee would nominate three members with the Companion of the Order of Australia to Federal Parliament to become President of Australia.

The Prime Minister of the day would recommend one of them to parliament to become president, with the approval of the leaders of all political parties sitting in parliament at the time. It would then be put to the vote of both houses of parliament, with a supermajority of 2/3 to approve the candidate as president.

The President would be eligible for a maximum of two five-year terms, and would have to be nominated again by the Presidential Select Committee for the second term.

Thereafter, although the President could not be nominated again after having a second term, he or she would be able to be nominated to sit on the next Presidential Select Committee.

The President would carry out all the duties that the Governor-General does now, but would seek advice from the Presidential Select Committee on any appointments he or she makes and on any use of the reserve powers.

The Select Committee could do any background checks necessary for the people they nominated for President. The people sitting on the Select Committee would be denied the ability to stand for president.

The President could only be dismissed by a vote of the Presidential Select Committee. If the president dies or has to leave office for any reason, there are still two people already nominated to the parliament that are able to fill the rest of the term.

In the debate we had about the republic, there was nothing said about State Governors. The Presidential Select Committee would nominate 3 people with the Office of the Order of Australia (AO), which is our second highest medal, to each State Government for Vice President of that State and the same sort of appointment process would occur as for the President.

Politicians, ex-politicians and people who had been a member of any political party for the previous 10 years would be ineligible to stand for either the Presidential Select Committee or for the President or Vice President positions.

It’s true that the people cannot elect the president outright under this system — but instead involves electing the President in a roundabout way by nominating people with an AC and electing the Presidential Select Committee.
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