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Reply #165 - May 7th, 2014 at 10:11pm
 
freediver wrote on May 7th, 2014 at 10:01pm:
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The Moors went through an expansionary period, and that's hardly unique to them, is it?


It was part of a several century expansionary period of the early Caliphates. Luckily it came to an end, or we might all be living under Shariah law, whether we like it or not.

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Then they were stopped, more by geography than anything else


So the Mediterranean didn't stop them crossing from Africa to the Iberian peninsula, but a few hills did? They were stopped by europeans who saw quite clearly that an empire was expanding from the south and about to swallow them.

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They developed science as a distinct branch of knowledge in a manner never before seen


Crap. For such a long lived and wealthy empire, their contributions are remarkably limited, and did not break the mold of what came before.


            Yet more selective picking, and expressions of bigoted opinion without substance, you only further prove my points about bigots, and you're welcome to the last word, it makes no difference to me. Cool
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Reply #166 - May 7th, 2014 at 10:13pm
 
You are wrong.
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Reply #167 - May 7th, 2014 at 10:21pm
 
freediver wrote on May 7th, 2014 at 10:01pm:
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The Moors went through an expansionary period, and that's hardly unique to them, is it?


It was part of a several century expansionary period of the early Caliphates. Luckily it came to an end, or we might all be living under Shariah law, whether we like it or not.


Nearly all of the Arabian Peninsular came into the Islamic state peacefully. The early caliphates expanded in wars that were aimed at defending the Islamic Arab state, and liberating their neighbours who lived under despot dictatorships. Christians who acted in good-will towards Muslims were left in peace. This is why no Islamic army invaded Ethiopia, despite it only being a few kilometres from Arabia.

freediver wrote on May 7th, 2014 at 10:01pm:
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Then they were stopped, more by geography than anything else


So the Mediterranean didn't stop them crossing from Africa to the Iberian peninsula, but a few hills did? They were stopped by europeans who saw quite clearly that an empire was expanding from the south and about to swallow them.


Rather, the Arabs had little interest in lands that were so cold.

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Reply #168 - May 8th, 2014 at 8:59am
 
True Colours wrote on May 7th, 2014 at 10:21pm:
. The early caliphates expanded in wars that were aimed at defending the Islamic Arab state, and liberating their neighbours who lived under despot dictatorships. Christians who acted in good-will towards Muslims were left in peace.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #169 - May 8th, 2014 at 9:50am
 
Re Yadda.

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I have a very ugly face.
My face is so ugly that some people have told me that they don't wish to see it.
Some people have even told me that they are intimidated, when they see my face!
I understand that i am causing trauma to some people.
Should i be confined to my home, maybe ?
Coz, it does offend some people when i am seen in public.


You have missed point.  No matter how ugly your face may be, it would not cause demonstratable / material damage to others who saw your face.  They may feel surprised, bewildered or even shocked.  But, no one is going to lose sleep over it, or it making them so depressed that they suicide.   It is very different to say, people deliberately, and intentionally insult or humiliate you based on your looks. 

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Is there any chance of me suing these people [who have told me that i am too ugly to be seen in public places], coz their words are causing great harm to my 'self image' !


Depends on what they do?  The law recognize that different level of offense have different levels of punishment.  If they just saying spontaneously that you are too ugly to be seen in public places.  Then, you can rightfully demand an apology.  However, if it just that, then you are wasting your money on a court case.  However, if they are saying this deliberately day after day after day.  So much so, that it is causing you to be depressed, despite the fact that you have attempted to mediate with them or avoiding these said people.  Or in circumstances where they attempt to affect your personal rights due to your looks.  In which case, then if you can demonstrate any material loss - e.g. doctor's bill, sick days at work - with proof - e.g. diary, psychologist support letter - then you may be able to sue and recover those damages. 

N.b. very sick over the last few days.
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Reply #170 - May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm
 
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Nearly all of the Arabian Peninsular came into the Islamic state peacefully.


The first town Muhammed conquered was Medina. It had three large Jewish tribes. Muhammed expelled the first two. With the third, he beheaded every adult male. Then came the pagans. Muhammed "predicted" they would be ethnically cleansed from the area. Guess what happened? In short military career after wiping out the Jews of Medina, Muhammed slaughtered plenty of people.

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The early caliphates expanded in wars that were aimed at defending the Islamic Arab state


I love this line. It was one of the most militant empires in history, yet it was all in self defense.... How gullible do you think people are? They even crossed the Mediterranean from Africa to Southern Spain in self defense.  Cheesy

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Christians who acted in good-will towards Muslims were left in peace.


They were left in subjugation, as were the Jews. Pagans were treated worse.

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Rather, the Arabs had little interest in lands that were so cold.


Yes they did. They merely failed.
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Re: Right To Bigotry?
Reply #171 - May 8th, 2014 at 9:43pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
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The early caliphates expanded in wars that were aimed at defending the Islamic Arab state


I love this line. It was one of the most militant empires in history, yet it was all in self defense.... How gullible do you think people are? They even crossed the Mediterranean from Africa to Southern Spain in self defense.  Cheesy





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Moslem apologists/spokesmen are true masters of spin, aren't they!!!!         Grin






A body representing British 'mainstream' moslems, The Muslim Council of Britain, has declared on its website;

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Rejecting Terror
Thursday, 11 April 2013

Muslims everywhere consider all acts of terrorism that aims to murder and maim innocent human beings utterly reprehensible and abhorrent. There is no theological basis whatsoever for such acts in our faith.

The very meaning of the word 'Islam' is peace.

It rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony.




http://www.mcb.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2307:mcbnewst...
http://www.mcb.org.uk/article_detail.php?article=announcement-656






"[ISLAM] rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."


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Honest!


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Reply #172 - May 10th, 2014 at 3:28pm
 
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Re: Right To Bigotry?
Reply #173 - May 10th, 2014 at 3:59pm
 
Yadda wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:43pm:
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
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The early caliphates expanded in wars that were aimed at defending the Islamic Arab state


I love this line. It was one of the most militant empires in history, yet it was all in self defense.... How gullible do you think people are? They even crossed the Mediterranean from Africa to Southern Spain in self defense.  Cheesy





LOL

Moslem apologists/spokesmen are true masters of spin, aren't they!!!!         Grin






A body representing British 'mainstream' moslems, The Muslim Council of Britain, has declared on its website;

Quote:

Rejecting Terror
Thursday, 11 April 2013

Muslims everywhere consider all acts of terrorism that aims to murder and maim innocent human beings utterly reprehensible and abhorrent. There is no theological basis whatsoever for such acts in our faith.

The very meaning of the word 'Islam' is peace.

It rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony.




http://www.mcb.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2307:mcbnewst...
http://www.mcb.org.uk/article_detail.php?article=announcement-656

"[ISLAM] rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."


Grin

Honest!



Yadda has previously exposed itself as a Hasbara shill and bugler for Israel.

Ask your handler for a more clever script!
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Reply #174 - May 14th, 2014 at 8:28pm
 
Is it bigotry to point these things out TC?
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Reply #175 - May 14th, 2014 at 10:41pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
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Nearly all of the Arabian Peninsular came into the Islamic state peacefully.


The first town Muhammed conquered was Medina.

Conquered? With which army did he arrive in Madina with? The historic fact of the matter is that the people of Madina invited him to be their leader. He arrived in Madina with no army, because he had no army at the time. How does a man with no army conquer a place?

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
It had three large Jewish tribes. Muhammed expelled the first two. With the third, he beheaded every adult male.


True, but only after continual acts of violence and outrages committed by Jews in the face of years of Muslim tolerance. Muslim tolerance was finally rewarded by treachery when the Jewish inhabitants blatantly aided an invading enemy and attacked the Muslim women's garrison.


freediver wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
Then came the pagans. Muhammed "predicted" they would be ethnically cleansed from the area. Guess what happened?

Except that it never happened. More Freediver falsehoods.


freediver wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
Muhammed slaughtered plenty of people.

Actually, he demonstrated great mercy and forgave nearly all of his enemies even when he had gained the upper hand. Nearly all the pagans that were defeated in battle were let go free. His magnanimity is clearly displayed from his first Battle of Badr, after which, all pagan captives were released, to the last of his battles against pagans when the entire city of Mecca was forgiven and let go free despite years of hostility and aggression against Muslims.


freediver wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
They even crossed the Mediterranean from Africa to Southern Spain in self defense. 


Piracy originating in Spain against Africa necessitated this.

Why did Muslims never invade Ethiopia when it was only a few miles from Arabia?

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
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Christians who acted in good-will towards Muslims were left in peace.


They were left in subjugation, as were the Jews. Pagans were treated worse.


Yes...if subjugation means, gaining peace and security, having to pay lower tax, becoming free from conscription, and having freedom of religion introduced to your land.
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Reply #176 - May 14th, 2014 at 10:44pm
 
Holocaust denier Frederick Toben backs George Brandis' plans for discrimination law


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Holocaust denier Frederick Toben has strongly backed the Abbott government's plans to water down race hate laws, describing them as a welcome challenge to "Jewish supremacism" in Australia.

In an explosive submission to Attorney-General George Brandis' review of the Racial Discrimination Act, obtained by Fairfax Media, Mr Toben congratulated the government for its attempt to rectify what he describes as a "flawed law, which only benefits Jewish-Zionist-Israeli interests".

His comments drew immediate anger in the Jewish community, which has warned that the government's plans for Section 18C of the act will open the door to "vilification on a massive scale".

Mr Toben said Senator Brandis – who famously defended people's "right to be a bigot" – had incorrectly claimed the need for reform of the Racial Discrimination Act was about free speech and the conviction of News Corp columnist Andrew Bolt under 18C.

"The essence of what the RDA Section 18C is all about and why it needs to be repealed is that the so-called 'Bolt law' is in effect a 'Holocaust' protection law," Mr Toben wrote...



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Reply #177 - May 15th, 2014 at 9:51pm
 
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Conquered? With which army did he arrive in Madina with? The historic fact of the matter is that the people of Madina invited him to be their leader. He arrived in Madina with no army, because he had no army at the time. How does a man with no army conquer a place?


Out of three powerful Jewish tribes, he expelled the first two, and slaughtered the third. That's how.

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True, but only after continual acts of violence and outrages committed by Jews in the face of years of Muslim tolerance. Muslim tolerance was finally rewarded by treachery


That's right people. Muslims insist that Muhammed turned up with nothing and moved on to slaughtering entire tribes within Medina and waging war against Mecca, within a few years, all out of self defence, and the treacherous Jews were to blame for it all. They expect you to believe this crap.

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Except that it never happened. More Freediver falsehoods.


It happened and is well documented by Muslims. They are proud of the ethnic cleansing. The signs on the freeway as you drive into Medina - "Muslims only past this point" - are not an accident. They are the heart of Islam. That is Muslims showing you how they really feel. And it started with Muhammed.

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Actually, he demonstrated great mercy and forgave nearly all of his enemies


By slaughtering the men and riding off on the women?

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Nearly all the pagans that were defeated in battle were let go free.


Were they free to stay in their own home? Or is this the Islamic version of freedom that you are peddling?

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Piracy originating in Spain against Africa necessitated this.


Crap. This is just more Muslim victimhood peddling. Muslims can get away with anything. Muslims are never to blame. Their victims are always to blame. Always. Absolutely. ever ever.

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Yes...if subjugation means, gaining peace and security, having to pay lower tax, becoming free from conscription, and having freedom of religion introduced to your land.


Is slaughtering every adult male peace and security? Is losing all your land and possessions and paying a 50% tax on all you produce a lower tax? Is being beheaded for insulting the prophet or changing your religion freedom of religion? We are speaking English here TC. Please don't use words like freedom when you mean the opposite.
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Reply #178 - May 16th, 2014 at 1:32am
 
True Colours wrote on May 14th, 2014 at 10:41pm:
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
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Nearly all of the Arabian Peninsular came into the Islamic state peacefully.


The first town Muhammed conquered was Medina.

Conquered? With which army did he arrive in Madina with? The historic fact of the matter is that the people of Madina invited him to be their leader. He arrived in Madina with no army, because he had no army at the time. How does a man with no army conquer a place?


Perhaps you could answer this question. Then we can move onto your other lies. With which army did he arrive in Madina with?
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Reply #179 - May 16th, 2014 at 7:06pm
 
Who said he arrived with an army? Like all good politicians, he talked his way in first. Then he started killing anyone who disagreed with him. Once he had an army he moved onto slaughtering entire tribes and villages.
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