One of the first British settlers in the Northern Territory wrote, after leaving the settlement, of the Aborigines living near the Port Essington:

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In the 1930's an American anthropologist, W. L. Warner, recorded Aboriginal ceremonies in which contained Quranic prayers.

The ANU's expert on trepanging, Campbell Macknight has extensively written on the industry and concludes that the Muslims from the East Indies  were exporting trepang and other goods from Australia at least half a century before Captain Cook. In correspondence with myself, he concedes that in light of recent archaeological evidence it is possible that the trade began around 100 years earlier than that.

For the rest you can check the records of the first fleet, the journal of Matthew flinders and accounts of expeditions such as Burke and Wills.

Read some books Yadda, it might do you some good. There is a lot of Australian history that most Australians are ignorant of. It is not just the Muslims and Indonesians who lived and worked in northern Australia before the arrival of Captain Cook.


You might ponder the Dutch maps of nearly half of Australia more than a 150 years older than the less than a quarter of the continent mapped by Cook.


How well-publicised was the traces of others that the British found here? Or was it all swept under the carpet?

You might wonder at the Portuguese mahogany boat found near Warnambool or the metal keys found buried in Geelong that pre-dated British settlement. You might also wonder of the Portuguese-speaking Aboriginal woman found on Tiwi Island before the British settled the region.

You might consider the early Europeans explorers like Marco Polo or writers like Manuel Godhino Eredia who wrote that the Malay kingdoms had dealings with Australia centuries before Cook arrived.

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http://alh-research.tripod.com/the_battle_of_broken_hill_new_south_wales_1_janua...

And yet there are over a dozen Muslims in our jails on terrorism charges.

Unfair isn't it TC?

"shalom alekum"

True Colours wrote on May 2^nd, 2014 at 9:43pm:


Incorrect.

For them to do so would fly in the face of what a Christian is. Anyone can commit a crime and call themselves a Christian all they want yet they still are not according to the doctrine. Much crime has been committed under the banner of calling themselves Christians yet they clearly were not according to Christian doctrine. Unlike Islam where the scriptures can be quoted to justify their crimes and the doctrine is still applicable to the way they live today.

I have never seen the scriptures that muslim extremists use today be refuted yet by a muslim above the deathly silence of the so called moderates. Yet you can quiet easily quote Christian teachings denouncing the things you have just tried to pin on them. Clearly they were not Christians at all. At best hypocritical heathens flying under the banner of Christianity.

re Yadda

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Very seldomly, and not to a degree that you are.  You seemed a bit.... extreme from the sound of your post.  Oh we talk about the more important things in life.  You know, school, life in general, relationshps.... just normal things.....

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Just like my dad thinks he is Anglican, but he rarely ever go to church on Sundays.  If you look up Church participation  - Islam countries, you will be surprised that the rate of participation is not 100%, even in countries like Iran.    Look, the society is getting more and more busier.  Some of my dad's colleagues are working long hours, and what little time they have left - they prefer to spend that with their family, going on trips etc.   May be you - Yadda have the time and energy to think about these things, or think that other people have time to think about these things.  But in reality, everyone have the same day to day issues to face, and alot of times, for ordinary citizens, those are much more important than waging some holy war against non believers. 

I guess, this is point where we differ. 

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So now you accusing people lying without proof.  You know, your rigid view of world and people is going to make yourself suffer.   My dad's colleagues, they are professionals that have shown to contribute to the society.  You have nothing to prove to your extemist views.  It is YOU, who must provide proof - not by quoting over the books - everyone can do that.  In fact, you can even make the argument that all Buddhists are mass murderers if you try hard enough.   

But, at the end of the day Yadda.  What are you try to achieve?  Lets just pretend - that everything you said is true, and you are gravely fearful of what can happen.  Then, isnt more important in your interest to strengthen the racial discrimination law rather than relax it?   This is one thing that I can not make sense from you. 

re Freediver

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Dont believe me?  Look up Mosque / church participation rate in Islamic countries.   

So are you a normal guy who eats corn flakes for breakfast?   

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Thats exactly what Attoney General Brandis was saying, not me.  -e.g. "People have the right to be bigots you know". 

Now I am completely against the change of the law, and even the Muslims are against changing the law.  It is Yadda who wants to change the law, not me.  I argue that may be we should strengthen the law. 

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It is you and Yadda are putting all Muslims and Nazis in the same category.  So with the weakening of the racial discrimination laws - do you think its going to increase or decrease the amount of extemist views?   Well, i reckon there will be an increase.   On this subject then, so just how the current changes to Racial Discrimination law would help you getting rid of or silence some of those views that you so fearful about?