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Reply #15 - May 10th, 2014 at 7:44pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:03pm:
Darlings, Australia is facing an economy dominated by the resources industries which probably have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue


Surely, that isn't a bad thing to have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue. My uncle retired from the mining industry after being on a near 6 figure salary, and he reckons that mining is what separates Australia from being a third world country. You would think that the billions of dollars that the mines produce for the Australian economy is something that is very cost efficient if we only have the fewest employees per millions of dollars revenue produced.
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Reply #16 - May 10th, 2014 at 9:12pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 7:44pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:03pm:
Darlings, Australia is facing an economy dominated by the resources industries which probably have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue


Surely, that isn't a bad thing to have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue. My uncle retired from the mining industry after being on a near 6 figure salary, and he reckons that mining is what separates Australia from being a third world country. You would think that the billions of dollars that the mines produce for the Australian economy is something that is very cost efficient if we only have the fewest employees per millions of dollars revenue produced.


When resources becomes the major part of your economy you have become a third world country because there is insufficient jobs to go around and manufacturing is uncompetitive because wages are high and exchange rate is high.

In such a circumstance, the only way to keep a lid on the A$ is by capital investment in other countries so you export capital instead of goods and services. The lucky country is becoming the dumb country.

Australia was 7 th in OECD's life satisfaction index.

7. Australia
> Life satisfaction score: 7.4 (tied for 7th)
> Self-reported good health: 85% (4th highest)
> Employees working long hours: 14.2% (7th highest)
> Disposable income: $31,197 (4th highest)
> Life expectancy: 82.0 years (7th highest)

More than 14% of Australians said they worked very long hours, more than all but a few other nations. Residents were rewarded for their hard work, however. Per capita disposable income was $31,197 — fourth highest after the U.S., Luxembourg, and Norway. Additionally, the average personal earnings in Australia was $46,585, among the highest of all nations reviewed. Residents were also heavily engaged in politics last year. Australia’s 93% voter turnout, likely the result of compulsory voting, was the highest in the OECD. Possibly also contributing to residents’ happiness was the size of their homes. Australians live in especially large homes, averaging 2.3 rooms per person, among the most of any country reviewed.

On the basis of purchasing power parity Australian incomes fall considerably and are comparable with UK and behind USA.

http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/05/05/the-happiest-countries-in-the-wor...
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Reply #17 - May 11th, 2014 at 6:19am
 
We live in a country that is relatively peaceful, we have a govt that is stable and benign, compared to what some people have had to put up with throughout history.
Most of us have a roof over our head and enough food to eat.
We're better off than about 95% of people who have ever lived on the planet.

Maybe things could be better and maybe things won't stay this way forever, but just be thankful for what we do have here, because I don't think a lot of people realise how lucky we are.
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Reply #18 - May 11th, 2014 at 6:24am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 11:08am:
The question has to be why didn't John Howard spend the proceeds of the mining boom on infrastructure rather than wasting it all on middleclass welfare.



Because Howard understands what happens when the Middle Class is diminished.
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Reply #19 - May 11th, 2014 at 9:28am
 
AiA wrote on May 11th, 2014 at 6:24am:
The_Barnacle wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 11:08am:
The question has to be why didn't John Howard spend the proceeds of the mining boom on infrastructure rather than wasting it all on middleclass welfare.



Because Howard understands what happens when the Middle Class is diminished.


so he set about subsidising it? How is that going to work long term?  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #20 - May 11th, 2014 at 10:44am
 
John Smith wrote on May 11th, 2014 at 9:28am:
AiA wrote on May 11th, 2014 at 6:24am:
The_Barnacle wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 11:08am:
The question has to be why didn't John Howard spend the proceeds of the mining boom on infrastructure rather than wasting it all on middleclass welfare.



Because Howard understands what happens when the Middle Class is diminished.


so he set about subsidising it? How is that going to work long term?  Grin Grin Grin
good point, the answer is its not working. Many middle class households are now entirely dependent on welfare, I think i read the other day that 50 percent of households pay no net tax.
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Reply #21 - May 11th, 2014 at 10:07pm
 
It's not true that any household pays no tax. Anybody who buys retail goods pays tax. People who own property pay rates which is a property tax. There are countless other examples. Everybody who spends money pays tax.
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Reply #22 - May 12th, 2014 at 9:21pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:12pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 7:44pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:03pm:
Darlings, Australia is facing an economy dominated by the resources industries which probably have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue


Surely, that isn't a bad thing to have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue. My uncle retired from the mining industry after being on a near 6 figure salary, and he reckons that mining is what separates Australia from being a third world country. You would think that the billions of dollars that the mines produce for the Australian economy is something that is very cost efficient if we only have the fewest employees per millions of dollars revenue produced.


When resources becomes the major part of your economy you have become a third world country because there is insufficient jobs to go around and manufacturing is uncompetitive because wages are high and exchange rate is high.

In such a circumstance, the only way to keep a lid on the A$ is by capital investment in other countries so you export capital instead of goods and services. The lucky country is becoming the dumb country.


You said that mining has the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue. It stands to reason that mining is the most cost efficient business, if you are raking in more money per employee, in spite of high wages. Miners make near (and in some cases, over) 6 figure yearly salaries. That's working for a company that operates at a decent profit. Compared to essential services (which in some cases sees employee numbers cut to save costs), which operates at a loss. I confuses me that you would see the mining industry as a bad thing. Plus, it doesn't even cross your mind that mining is only one industry in Australia that employs people amongst numerous other industries that work interdependently with the mining industry.

If Australia relied solely on mining, we might be another Iraq with no real prospect of diversifying our economy. But it's pretty much a thriving economy, when you have 5% unemployment, numerous industries to work in, and a moderately to highly educated workforce that even works in industries that they are considered over-educated. Things should be looking good for us for the next 20 years.
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Reply #23 - May 12th, 2014 at 10:05pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11th, 2014 at 10:07pm:
It's not true that any household pays no tax. Anybody who buys retail goods pays tax. People who own property pay rates which is a property tax. There are countless other examples. Everybody who spends money pays tax.


last time I bought property I paid over $30 g in stamp duty (tax)  then when I sell it, I have to pay again ....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #24 - May 13th, 2014 at 12:46pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 12th, 2014 at 9:21pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:12pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 7:44pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:03pm:
Darlings, Australia is facing an economy dominated by the resources industries which probably have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue


Surely, that isn't a bad thing to have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue. My uncle retired from the mining industry after being on a near 6 figure salary, and he reckons that mining is what separates Australia from being a third world country. You would think that the billions of dollars that the mines produce for the Australian economy is something that is very cost efficient if we only have the fewest employees per millions of dollars revenue produced.


When resources becomes the major part of your economy you have become a third world country because there is insufficient jobs to go around and manufacturing is uncompetitive because wages are high and exchange rate is high.

In such a circumstance, the only way to keep a lid on the A$ is by capital investment in other countries so you export capital instead of goods and services. The lucky country is becoming the dumb country.


You said that mining has the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue. It stands to reason that mining is the most cost efficient business, if you are raking in more money per employee, in spite of high wages. Miners make near (and in some cases, over) 6 figure yearly salaries. That's working for a company that operates at a decent profit. Compared to essential services (which in some cases sees employee numbers cut to save costs), which operates at a loss. I confuses me that you would see the mining industry as a bad thing. Plus, it doesn't even cross your mind that mining is only one industry in Australia that employs people amongst numerous other industries that work interdependently with the mining industry.

If Australia relied solely on mining, we might be another Iraq with no real prospect of diversifying our economy. But it's pretty much a thriving economy, when you have 5% unemployment, numerous industries to work in, and a moderately to highly educated workforce that even works in industries that they are considered over-educated. Things should be looking good for us for the next 20 years.


Economies evolve or devolve just as societies do.

Romans in 800 BC thought life couldn't be better. But then their relative well being compared to other developed societies diminshed to its lowest point post WW2 with some recovery since until GFC.

Also consider Greece, the birthplace of philosophy.

They did not evolve to the stage of flipping mud huts like Australia has as an economic basis.
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Reply #25 - May 13th, 2014 at 12:48pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11th, 2014 at 10:07pm:
It's not true that any household pays no tax. Anybody who buys retail goods pays tax. People who own property pay rates which is a property tax. There are countless other examples. Everybody who spends money pays tax.

NET tax, bozo, net tax.
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Reply #26 - May 13th, 2014 at 1:37pm
 
Soren wrote on May 13th, 2014 at 12:48pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11th, 2014 at 10:07pm:
It's not true that any household pays no tax. Anybody who buys retail goods pays tax. People who own property pay rates which is a property tax. There are countless other examples. Everybody who spends money pays tax.

NET tax, bozo, net tax.


I am sure that excludes council rates which are a tax on property ownership, GST and taxes on petrol and other hidden taxes.

If your assertion is true, the Australian economy is underwater with the tsunami of baby boomer retirements about to deliver the coup de grace.
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Reply #27 - May 13th, 2014 at 1:53pm
 
Nothing to see here: the baby boomers know exactly what's going on so don't worry!

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Those baby boomers are all crying for they are retiring in mansions that their kids still can't leave  Shocked
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Reply #28 - May 13th, 2014 at 2:03pm
 
Soren wrote on May 13th, 2014 at 12:48pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11th, 2014 at 10:07pm:
It's not true that any household pays no tax. Anybody who buys retail goods pays tax. People who own property pay rates which is a property tax. There are countless other examples. Everybody who spends money pays tax.

NET tax, bozo, net tax.

Hows abouts we talk about net subsidies: something soren and his little 'friend' culture tryhard something something will never acknowledge??

The world runs on environmental subsidies that were never there to give. Wealth, and most aussies have some experience of it in the family, rides on the back of a free kick! The subsidiary industry all rides on that free kick...

That is inefficiency written into the system: why not attack the attack I SAY, but who cares because Hollywood just tells us to f that and f this and drink that and smoke it up cuz yehhhhhh cos like we is dat rich and cool and sophisticated and it's all honest to goodness like productivity bro yeh  Shocked with our long weekends and 38 hour weeks and stuff lol  Roll Eyes

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Reply #29 - May 13th, 2014 at 2:07pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 12th, 2014 at 9:21pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:12pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 7:44pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:03pm:
Darlings, Australia is facing an economy dominated by the resources industries which probably have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue


Surely, that isn't a bad thing to have the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue. My uncle retired from the mining industry after being on a near 6 figure salary, and he reckons that mining is what separates Australia from being a third world country. You would think that the billions of dollars that the mines produce for the Australian economy is something that is very cost efficient if we only have the fewest employees per millions of dollars revenue produced.


When resources becomes the major part of your economy you have become a third world country because there is insufficient jobs to go around and manufacturing is uncompetitive because wages are high and exchange rate is high.

In such a circumstance, the only way to keep a lid on the A$ is by capital investment in other countries so you export capital instead of goods and services. The lucky country is becoming the dumb country.


You said that mining has the lowest number of employees per million dollars revenue. It stands to reason that mining is the most cost efficient business, if you are raking in more money per employee, in spite of high wages. Miners make near (and in some cases, over) 6 figure yearly salaries. That's working for a company that operates at a decent profit. Compared to essential services (which in some cases sees employee numbers cut to save costs), which operates at a loss. I confuses me that you would see the mining industry as a bad thing. Plus, it doesn't even cross your mind that mining is only one industry in Australia that employs people amongst numerous other industries that work interdependently with the mining industry.

If Australia relied solely on mining, we might be another Iraq with no real prospect of diversifying our economy. But it's pretty much a thriving economy, when you have 5% unemployment, numerous industries to work in, and a moderately to highly educated workforce that even works in industries that they are considered over-educated. Things should be looking good for us for the next 20 years.

Where did you mention the fact those resources are non-renewable?

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