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Alinta Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1470 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rolf facing the music Reply #1020 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:38am Emma wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:57am: so Bobby the Bat sympathy ?? He is RH... not ROLF... ROLF was an illusion that the whole world (more or less make that the Poms) bought as real. Now RH is revealed.. have no pity for him... he does not deserve it.! +1
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Reply #1022 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:39am

sherri wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:02am:

See, this is where the concept of justice goes a bit wobbly, IMO.

Just a couple of years back, we had a woman raped and murdered in Melbourne. The man who did it, Adrian Bayley, had previously committed 2 violent rapes. His sentence was 5 years and he was out in 22 months.

After that, he went on a rampage of attacks and rapes and still only got 8 years.
I know that is Melbourne and RH is in England, bit it makes you wonder (or it does me, anyway).. why did Adrian Bayley get out in only 22 months and is RH that much worse that he has a min of 3 years?
I think, myself, we are just way too lenient to some of our aussie criminals

because our laws and judiciary are more in sympathy with the perp and the victim can get on with it..

I agree totally inadequate .. I read that a serial rapist in Perth has been removed from a suburb because the people were moving out of their homes in fear....how come these types are allowed back in society as if nothing happened and society is expected to trust them....

how about halfway houses....in a suburb where those who see fit to let them out live......and see how things go from there???...

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Reply #1023 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:52am

austranger wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:31am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:42am:

At first I thought it was a bit of touchy feely stuff, yes it went with the times. But now the severity of the acts have come out and the court has proven that he penetrated an eight year old girl among other horrible sexual assaults on very young girls/women. He deserves what he got. He had to cop jail time otherwise justice would not seem to be served. It is just a shame that Savile, who was a worse offender than Harris, got off scot free.

I admit I stopped reading any details of his actual activities once he was convicted, such things disgust me and I'd rather not know, but I don't recall him being charged with rape or any penetrative events? I know he had an ongoing sexual relationship with his daughters friend into her twenties but surely I heard that he didn't actually "bed" her till she was a teenager?
As far as I heard he was an "octopus", a groper, but nothing more?
His sentence appears to reflect that.

I have often wondered if people like him suffer from impotence..a lady on TV this morning said when she was 29 and he 64 he grabbed her face and put his tongue in her mouth..and just walked off..she felt violated...and shocked of course...

on the surface it doesnt seem much... but she didnt like it didnt want it and has to live with it...

if it made you sick at the time.. it will do that for ever...

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Reply #1024 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:59am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:24am:

red baron wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:17am:

Thus the book closes on an extraordinary episode in many, many lives. Not just the victims but all of those of us who loved him and were shaken to our foundations to find this icon had feet of clay.

Rolf is now left to ruminate in prison as to the evil he has secretly spread during his life. All the joy he created counts for nothing against the evil he perpetrated over and over again against innocent female victims.

Piece by piece reminders of him are now being removed, plaques, names, paintings, music all disappearing and soon Rolf with fade from our memories. But not so the memories of the victims who he has left a constant reminder all of their lives of the foul deeds he committed on them.

His sentence is relatively light but you can bet he doesn't think that. He will have at least 3 years before parole to consider his life. It won't be time done easily, it will be gut wrenchingly hard and so it should be.

Dear Baron,
will you still say that if he dies of hypothermia from the freezing UK winter with no heating or
the poor food - not fit for a dog?

you will find prisoners are better off than the homeless...get real.. imagine all the lawyers getting rich taking the govt to court for ill treatment.....wouldnt they just love it....

when I worked in the wholesale grocery trade a salesman told me that his company.. Yoplait had to give ...GIVE... so much yogurt and dairy products per day to prisons in NSW.to get a contract..and I can only guess thats most business

do not kid yourself Britain is any different...they would all have human rights b ashing their doors down..

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Reply #1025 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:23am

If they were rounding up the 'sexual assault' offenders, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jean-Claude Van Damme would be among those in the paddy wagon.

Both of them enjoyed the 'party trick' of walking across a room and thrusting their tongue down a young woman's throat ~ no doubt to the hilarious laughter of their lackeys and hangers-on.

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Reply #1026 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:37am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

If they were rounding up the 'sexual assault' offenders, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jean-Claude Van Damme would be among those in the paddy wagon.

Both of them enjoyed the 'party trick' of walking across a room and thrusting their tongue down a young woman's throat ~ no doubt to the hilarious laughter of their lackeys and hangers-on.

ugggggggggggh did we need to know that herb??

does it mean something else in little boys language.......yuck..... I felt creepy listening to this women this morning.. she said she just thought at the time what a dirty old man because nothing of this sort was ever in the news about ROlf.... she went to the police after it came out..

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hermoine Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 364	Re: Rolf facing the music Reply #1027 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:38am The fact that more deviants aren't being jailed is more of a reflection of how hard it is to convict sex offenders. Would Rolf be in jail if only one or two wtnesses came forward? Not likely.
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Reply #1028 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:42am

My brother once told me that I met him at a bookstore in a shopping mall when I was a child, and he spoke to me and said something which i dont even remember, i dont even remember meeting him but my brother claimed I did.

But still I think that since the court found him to be guilty of charges to being a sexually perverted grub, he deserves to get the discomfort of prison time.

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Reply #1029 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:26pm

cods wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:59am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:24am:

red baron wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:17am:

Thus the book closes on an extraordinary episode in many, many lives. Not just the victims but all of those of us who loved him and were shaken to our foundations to find this icon had feet of clay.

Rolf is now left to ruminate in prison as to the evil he has secretly spread during his life. All the joy he created counts for nothing against the evil he perpetrated over and over again against innocent female victims.

Piece by piece reminders of him are now being removed, plaques, names, paintings, music all disappearing and soon Rolf with fade from our memories. But not so the memories of the victims who he has left a constant reminder all of their lives of the foul deeds he committed on them.

His sentence is relatively light but you can bet he doesn't think that. He will have at least 3 years before parole to consider his life. It won't be time done easily, it will be gut wrenchingly hard and so it should be.

Dear Baron,
will you still say that if he dies of hypothermia from the freezing UK winter with no heating or
the poor food - not fit for a dog?

you will find prisoners are better off than the homeless...get real.. imagine all the lawyers getting rich taking the govt to court for ill treatment.....wouldnt they just love it....

when I worked in the wholesale grocery trade a salesman told me that his company.. Yoplait had to give ...GIVE... so much yogurt and dairy products per day to prisons in NSW.to get a contract..and I can only guess thats most business

do not kid yourself Britain is any different...they would all have human rights b ashing their doors down..

Get real - doing time at 84 is a death sentence.

Rolf will be dead in 6 months - the winter is fast approaching -
they don't have heating in UK jails.

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Reply #1030 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:31pm

hermoine wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

The fact that more deviants aren't being jailed is more of a reflection of how hard it is to convict sex offenders. Would Rolf be in jail if only one or two wtnesses came forward? Not likely.

thats why he went undetected for so long..

who would point the finger at an ICON.....these women didnt know each other how did they know they were not the only one.....

I would imagine there was a long investigation before there was even a hint of his name...

this wouldnt be any old every day investigation...he has honours of all kinds.. you dont tarnish a pillar of society on one persons say so even two even 3 maybe.....had it just been the 4 of them I bet he would have wriggled off the hook...they had many more that was the problem...the more that came out the more women that came out.. even since the verdict....

he is worse really than this court case has let on...

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Reply #1031 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

cods wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:59am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:24am:

red baron wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:17am:

Thus the book closes on an extraordinary episode in many, many lives. Not just the victims but all of those of us who loved him and were shaken to our foundations to find this icon had feet of clay.

Rolf is now left to ruminate in prison as to the evil he has secretly spread during his life. All the joy he created counts for nothing against the evil he perpetrated over and over again against innocent female victims.

Piece by piece reminders of him are now being removed, plaques, names, paintings, music all disappearing and soon Rolf with fade from our memories. But not so the memories of the victims who he has left a constant reminder all of their lives of the foul deeds he committed on them.

His sentence is relatively light but you can bet he doesn't think that. He will have at least 3 years before parole to consider his life. It won't be time done easily, it will be gut wrenchingly hard and so it should be.

Dear Baron,
will you still say that if he dies of hypothermia from the freezing UK winter with no heating or
the poor food - not fit for a dog?

you will find prisoners are better off than the homeless...get real.. imagine all the lawyers getting rich taking the govt to court for ill treatment.....wouldnt they just love it....

when I worked in the wholesale grocery trade a salesman told me that his company.. Yoplait had to give ...GIVE... so much yogurt and dairy products per day to prisons in NSW.to get a contract..and I can only guess thats most business

do not kid yourself Britain is any different...they would all have human rights b ashing their doors down..

Get real - doing time at 84 is a death sentence.

Rolf will be dead in 6 months - the winter is fast approaching -
they don't have heating in UK jails.

Not sure where your info re no heating comes from Bobby. I understand there definitely is heating though I'm guessing it's not the de luxe form to which Harris is accustomed.

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Reply #1032 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 1:02pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:50am:

red baron wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 9:24pm:

That poor old hapless wife of Rolf's I don't think she knew what the freak was going on at any stage, smiling wanly as she struggled in each day to support her errant evil husband.

From her daily appearance as a grinning gnome she's obviously quite insane.

Or maybe she was anticipating getting rid of the old bugger and having that multi-million dollar riverside mansion to herself.

And no more him groping her ...

I thought it was more a 'coping' type of smile, through thick and thin. You can remember their mentality of those days, 'must smile and your troubles will seem less troublesome' type thing.
Who knows what story she has to tell from her path, but as she is from the generation of keeping it to themselves, it's unlikely we may ever know, compared to so many in the more modern generation of this day and age of show and tell. (Gerry Springer show comes to mind).
In the earlier decades of peace, free love, blah blah, these types of things were probably then tolerated or kept on the QT. We had the gropers and the wolf whistlers, and the gawkers, and the sexual suggestions...and nothing further would come of it....now, laws are so different and won't tolerate that.

I bet RH thought it was all going to be kept a type of hush hush immunity, the times of his life he did stuff. More so when they are so well known and loved world wide....they tend to think they are like Gods when they get to that level of fame and fortune.

But, as the old adage goes, the bigger they are, the harder they fall (from grace).
Pity that Saville creep died before all his offences came out.

I am betting, that many others are going to fall from grace now that this 'whistle blowing' stuff is happening, now that RH has been dealt with by the court of law, and sentenced, others will most likely have the courage to come forth also, since they now may feel the law to be stringent and that they will be taken seriously, rather than brushed aside.

Disappointed I am, as I did love RH's talents, and looking at his photos with his wife and daughter, walking to the courts, I must say, his creativity is still something to be admired on it's own merits....loved the ties he wore.

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Reply #1033 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 1:15pm

Alinta wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

cods wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:59am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:24am:

red baron wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:17am:

Thus the book closes on an extraordinary episode in many, many lives. Not just the victims but all of those of us who loved him and were shaken to our foundations to find this icon had feet of clay.

Rolf is now left to ruminate in prison as to the evil he has secretly spread during his life. All the joy he created counts for nothing against the evil he perpetrated over and over again against innocent female victims.

Piece by piece reminders of him are now being removed, plaques, names, paintings, music all disappearing and soon Rolf with fade from our memories. But not so the memories of the victims who he has left a constant reminder all of their lives of the foul deeds he committed on them.

His sentence is relatively light but you can bet he doesn't think that. He will have at least 3 years before parole to consider his life. It won't be time done easily, it will be gut wrenchingly hard and so it should be.

Dear Baron,
will you still say that if he dies of hypothermia from the freezing UK winter with no heating or
the poor food - not fit for a dog?

you will find prisoners are better off than the homeless...get real.. imagine all the lawyers getting rich taking the govt to court for ill treatment.....wouldnt they just love it....

when I worked in the wholesale grocery trade a salesman told me that his company.. Yoplait had to give ...GIVE... so much yogurt and dairy products per day to prisons in NSW.to get a contract..and I can only guess thats most business

do not kid yourself Britain is any different...they would all have human rights b ashing their doors down..

Get real - doing time at 84 is a death sentence.

Rolf will be dead in 6 months - the winter is fast approaching -
they don't have heating in UK jails.

Not sure where your info re no heating comes from Bobby. I understand there definitely is heating though I'm guessing it's not the de luxe form to which Harris is accustomed.

I did a Google search & found no evidence of heating to a comfortable 14 to 18 degrees in winter in British jails.

My bet is that it goes below zero in the cells at night.

I suppose if Rolf can wear about 8 jumpers & long johns he might survive.

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