ian wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 4:00pm:


As someone said about Bill Clinton and his 'sex addiction' - we're all sex addicts....

Have to agree - if someone had an affair with someone else to age 29 it sort of tends to remove any idea of it not being consensual.

Might one be so bold as to ask - what is the woman's financial situation at the moment?

I once met an Aboriginal guy who was held in prison for 'abducting' a girl in his town.  One of his witnesses was a 'screw' in the prison who testified that he'd seen the pair walking around hand in hand - but the girl stood to gain maybe $100,000 from his being convicted....

Makes you wonder, don' it?

ian wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 4:00pm:


Well, if that is true ~ it does amount to a blow to that complainant's evidence.

Love and Stockholm Syndrome: The Mystery of Loving an Abuser, Page 1

By Dr Joseph M Carver, PhD


If you’re in a controlling and abusive relationship, you may recognize several of the characteristics described in this article by Consulting Clinical Psychologist Dr Joseph M. Carver, PhD. Beginning with a description of how bonds form between victim and abuser, the article continues with observations about cognitive dissonance and offers suggestions for friends and family of victims


▸Introduction ▸Perceived Threat to One’s Physical/Psychological Survival
▸The “Small Kindness” Perception
▸Isolation from Perspectives Other than those of the Captor
▸Perceived Inability to Escape

▸Is There Something Else Involved?
▸Combining Two Unhealthy Conditions
▸Family and Friends of the Victim
▸Final Thoughts

People are often amazed at their own psychological conditions and reactions. Those with depression are stunned when they remember they’ve thought of killing themselves. Patients recovering from severe psychiatric disturbances are often shocked as they remember their symptoms and behavior during the episode. A patient with Bipolar Disorder recently told me “I can’t believe I thought I could change the weather through mental telepathy!” A common reaction is “I can’t believe I did that!”

In clinical practice, some of the most surprised and shocked individuals are those who have been involved in controlling and abusive relationships. When the relationship ends, they offer comments such as “I know what he’s done to me, but I still love him”, “I don’t know why, but I want him back”, or “I know it sounds crazy, but I miss her”. Recently I’ve heard “This doesn’t make sense. He’s got a new girlfriend and he’s abusing her too…but I’m jealous!” Friends and relatives are even more amazed and shocked when they hear these comments or witness their loved one returning to an abusive relationship. While the situation doesn’t make sense from a social standpoint, does it make sense from a psychological viewpoint? The answer is — Yes!

On August 23rd, 1973 two machine-gun carrying criminals entered a bank in Stockholm, Sweden. Blasting their guns, one prison escapee named Jan-Erik Olsson announced to the terrified bank employees “The party has just begun!” The two bank robbers held four hostages, three women and one man, for the next 131 hours. The hostages were strapped with dynamite and held in a bank vault until finally rescued on August 28th.

After their rescue, the hostages exhibited a shocking attitude considering they were threatened, abused, and feared for their lives for over five days. In their media interviews, it was clear that they supported their captors and actually feared law enforcement personnel who came to their rescue. The hostages had begun to feel the captors were actually protecting them from the police. One woman later became engaged to one of the criminals and another developed a legal defense fund to aid in their criminal defense fees. Clearly, the hostages had “bonded” emotionally with their captors.

While the psychological condition in hostage situations became known as “Stockholm Syndrome” due to the publicity, the emotional “bonding” with captors was a familiar story in psychology. It had been recognized many years before and was found in studies of other hostage, prisoner, or abusive situations such as:
◦Abused Children
◦Battered/Abused Women
◦Prisoners of War
◦Cult Members
◦Incest Victims
◦Criminal Hostage Situations
◦Concentration Camp Prisoners
◦Controlling/Intimidating Relationships

In the final analysis, emotionally bonding with an abuser is actually a strategy for survival for victims of abuse and intimidation. The “Stockholm Syndrome” reaction in hostage and/or abuse situations is so well recognized at this time that police hostage negotiators no longer view it as unusual. In fact, it is often encouraged in crime situations as it improves the chances for survival of the hostages. On the down side, it also assures that the hostages experiencing “Stockholm Syndrome” will not be very cooperative during rescue or criminal prosecution. Local law enforcement personnel have long recognized this syndrome with battered women who fail to press charges, bail their battering husband/boyfriend out of jail, and even physically attack police officers when they arrive to rescue them from a violent assault.

red baron wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 4:41pm:
the woman he had an affair with was not captive and did not even live in the family household,  Rolf saw her only when she willingly went to his house according to his and her testimonies so far. I also havent as yet seen any evidence so far that Rolf did or was using physical abuse to control the woman which would be a key indicator in the kind of relationship you are referring to.

ian wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 5:06pm:


'Coaching' ... 'coached' ... 'grooming' ... 'groomed'.

He had her in bed at 14.

Most escapees from nutcase religious sects don't dare make a run for it until around the age of 30.

Prisoners of the Mind. Captives without bars.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 5:45pm:
perhaps, but that then depicts another different scenario, Rolf appears to be all types of pervert to all people, there is no distinct pattern of  behaviour. Doesnt fit. Child molesters dont have affairs lasting until their victims are nearly middle age. And you are missing the point, his alleged victim was not captive and wasnt even resident in the house, despite which there is no evidence as yet he used any abusive techniques to control her. The other point of course is even if he did start a relationship with her at 14 (which he denies), that is not child abuse or pedophilia and does not fit with the other accusers claiming he abused them at much younger ages. Im holding an open mind on this but something is starting to smell fishy.

cods wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 6:29pm:


Thankfully, I never, ever had to suffer that but I know several girls who did. smacking men! Fathers and Grandfathers!  Men who take advantage of children should be SHOT and if any male did that to my daughter or granddaughter I would not hesitate to shoot them in the balls. Or stab, as I don't have a gun ............. 

You KNOW what I mean.