Herbert? You're the last one who I'd expect to declare yourself a peado brother and a hater of all women   

Yes....perspective!

I can understand children not coming forward. But adult females? Females who work in show business and the media? Come on, it beggars credibility.

ian wrote on Jul 8^th, 2014 at 1:17am:


All it proves is RH chose his situations well, he could probably sum up a personality and assess the risk.
There is absolutely nothing to suggest some of these women would not have repeated their story to friends and workmates. In fact they must have, or else why would RH have been known in entertainment circles as 'the octopus'?

Why did they not take it further? Part of it is because they felt silly. They felt uncomfortable and perhaps a bit embarrassed as well. They probably felt angry, but the situation usually wasn't quite serious enough to make them feel it warranted going to the police etc


ME THINKS TOO THE TIMES WERE DIFFERENT WOMEN SUCKED UP AN AWFUL LOT EVEN 20 YEARS AGO.. EVEN RAPE WASNT TALKED ABOUT LIKE IT IS TODAY....RESPECT FOR WOMEN WENT OUT THE WINDOW A LONG TIME AGO AND AS HAS BEEN SEEN THOSE SO CALLED CELEBRITIES TOOK FULL ADVANTAGE 0F THEIR POSITION I FOR ONE DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT THEY DID WENT UNNOTICED IT WAS MORE PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS A "ONE OFF"



That is why I think RH was great at risk assessment. I am betting there are some women in the media he would not have touched in a fit because he would have known they would be more outspoken.


A SLAP ROUND THE FACE MAYBE??  i THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ALL WERE PRETTY YOUNG....


Were the women all traumatised? Depends on the level of abuse and age of the female. In some cases yes, in other cases no, but the women would have been upset.
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SHOCKED MORE LIKE   HE WAS A PERSON THEY ADMIRED...LIKE EVERYONE ELSE....IT WASNT AS IF HE WAS KNOWN FOR TOUCHING CHILDREN...... WAS IT?


Someone asked why jail him when there are worse things happening in the world?

That's because we don't live in a just world or a world where everything turns out fair. Karma doesn't always hit the bad guys, some evil people go to their graves in comfort and wealth while some good people suffer. It's always been that way and always will be.

But in our part of the world and in England, there are laws and there is the media.
If you want to break the law and you are a celebrity or a politician, you better have a good cover up because if the media can get hold of a story, they will.

Yes, there are worse people in the world than RH, but that doesn't make what he did right, does it.
If we used that argument, no crime would ever get punished. Everyone could argue there were 'worse cases'.

RH did the wrong thing, he got caught, someone took it to court, he got sentenced.
There are worse people than he is who are still walking about, free as birds.
That's life.

Cods, the reason we jail people is to punish the offender and in some small amount of cases rehabilitate them.


Who is "we"? And why don't "we" have a objective towards rehabilitation?

This also has the effect of removing their threat from society.

Realistically, how much of a threat is Rolf now given that there haven't been any complaints of criminal value for over 30yrs? Did he rehabilitate  himself from his criminal ways?

Wouldn't you say the streets would be safer than allowing murderers rapists etc. etc. to walk around plying their trade

Of course it won't make the streets any more or less safe now that Rolf is removed from society. So the question is...will his incarceration clear Rolf's conscience or the conscience of those who didn't speak up soon enough?
It's purely a punishment with little hope of reward. 
Unlike what might be hoped to be achieved from giving a child a spanking, will it serve as only a heads on sticks example to other would be offenders? ..and considering Rolf's age and circumstance now, wouldn't it be the logical thing for him to use the remainder of his money to deal with it in some way if he gets out?   

Cods, the reason we jail people is to punish the offender and in some small amount of cases rehabilitate them.

This also has the effect of removing their threat from society.

Wouldn't you say the streets would be safer than allowing murderers rapists etc. etc. to walk around plying their trade?

Emma wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 11:05pm:



he is taking a HUGE chance isnt he.... everyone thinks it was too lenient ...so it will be interesting... another hard one for the judiciary


personally I thought the sentence was a good one..hes old he could even be border line senile.his life is in ruins.. along with anyone he sexually assaulted...

he now has some idea what they may have gone through

...when he comes out he is 90.. and too what?

I am sort of in the middle on this one...had he got 2 years I would have been appalled.