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Reply #1245 - Aug 2^nd, 2014 at 9:58pm

cods wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2014 at 8:22am:

Emma wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 11:05pm:

What a supreme egotist.. a typical denier..

.ooooh ohh I did nothing wrong..

HE wants to APPEAL..??

Well let him.. and see the sentence INCREASE.

What a scum bag ...

he is taking a HUGE chance isnt he.... everyone thinks it was too lenient ...so it will be interesting... another hard one for the judiciary

personally I thought the sentence was a good one..hes old he could even be border line senile.his life is in ruins.. along with anyone he sexually assaulted... he now has some idea what they may have gone through...when he comes out he is 90.. and too what?

I am sort of in the middle on this one...had he got 2 years I would have been appalled.

The Appeal being sought is against the conviction and the sentence.

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Rolf facing the music Reply #1246 - Aug 2^nd, 2014 at 11:27pm wow.. Aussie..? Does this make sense to you.? Doesn't this show JUST how out there the cnt is?? The man is so sure of himself.. he believes he can pull the wool..?? WOW..
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Reply #1247 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:29am

I'm not saying this applies in this case ~ but it is occurring far too often that a person found guilty of sexual offences is later proven to be completely innocent. That is why there is an appeal process. There was some pretty technical legal stuff for the Judge to properly instruct on, and for the Jury to absorb particularly concerning the use they can make of the several charges when considering guilt on just one.

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Reply #1248 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 9:20am

Rolf has around a 20 million dollar personal fortune. I'm sure his legal team will be overjoyed at the prospect of digging some of that out for themselves.

Nothing like a rich client to keep the pot bubbling along.

I can't see that Rolf will wriggle off the hook with this one. Too many complaints against him and on the outside more people are coming forward and lodging fresh complaints.

He'll most probably spend the rest of his life inside raging against the machine. Good luck with that Rolf. I guess it helps pass the time.

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Reply #1249 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 10:24am

sherri wrote on Jul 9^th, 2014 at 7:46am:

ian wrote on Jul 8^th, 2014 at 1:17am:

I can understand children not coming forward. But adult females? Females who work in show business and the media? Come on, it beggars credibility.

All it proves is RH chose his situations well, he could probably sum up a personality and assess the risk.
There is absolutely nothing to suggest some of these women would not have repeated their story to friends and workmates. In fact they must have, or else why would RH have been known in entertainment circles as 'the octopus'?

Why did they not take it further? Part of it is because they felt silly. They felt uncomfortable and perhaps a bit embarrassed as well. They probably felt angry, but the situation usually wasn't quite serious enough to make them feel it warranted going to the police etc

That is why I think RH was great at risk assessment. I am betting there are some women in the media he would not have touched in a fit because he would have known they would be more outspoken.

Were the women all traumatised? Depends on the level of abuse and age of the female. In some cases yes, in other cases no, but the women would have been upset.
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I highly doubt Rolf got up in the morning with his fiendish master plan cunningly and carefully worked out as to the risk assessment of the personality profile he was going to grope that day. The more you try and ratioalise this the more ludicrous it sounds. I think most of these allegations are cr@p and are people jumping on the band wagon for media publicity. Especially coming from washed up Tv and radio personalities.

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Reply #1250 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 10:27am

Aussie wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:29am:

I'm not saying this applies in this case ~ but it is occurring far too often that a person found guilty of sexual offences is later proven to be completely innocent. That is why there is an appeal process. There was some pretty technical legal stuff for the Judge to properly instruct on, and for the Jury to absorb particularly concerning the use they can make of the several charges when considering guilt on just one.

Im betting he gets out on appeal, if he doesnt the English justice system isnt worth tuppence.

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Reply #1251 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 11:40am

Aussie wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:29am:

I'm not saying this applies in this case ~ but it is occurring far too often that a person found guilty of sexual offences is later proven to be completely innocent. That is why there is an appeal process. There was some pretty technical legal stuff for the Judge to properly instruct on, and for the Jury to absorb particularly concerning the use they can make of the several charges when considering guilt on just one.

Agree....I won't be surprised if Leave to Appeal is granted......if he's knocked back by one judge, he can reapply and three judges will decide....

As for winning a subsequent Appeal Hearing?????? I hate to think he might, but need to research applicable English case law to gather a more informed view.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Rolf facing the music Reply #1252 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 12:47pm Theres still plenty of time for someone in prison to beat Rolf to a bloody pulp and hopefully he will die behind bars shortly after. Every cent Rolf has earned needs to be confiscated and distributed to the women he abused over his disgraceful career.
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Reply #1253 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 7:00pm

Rolf has got away with his 'funny stuff' for decades. We all have to pay the piper at some stage of our life, for the misdeeds we have done along the way.

Rolf is currently paying the Piper and will continue to do so until he dies...gaol or no gaol, he is washed up and totally discredited. His reputation in tatters is a far worse sentence for him than the gaol time.

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Reply #1254 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:43pm

red baron wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 7:00pm:

Rolf has got away with his 'funny stuff' for decades. We all have to pay the piper at some stage of our life, for the misdeeds we have done along the way.

Rolf is currently paying the Piper and will continue to do so until he dies...gaol or no gaol, he is washed up and totally discredited. His reputation in tatters is a far worse sentence for him than the gaol time.

and yet he still holds to this day an Order or Australia.. Huh

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Reply #1255 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:46pm

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:43pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 7:00pm:

Rolf has got away with his 'funny stuff' for decades. We all have to pay the piper at some stage of our life, for the misdeeds we have done along the way.

Rolf is currently paying the Piper and will continue to do so until he dies...gaol or no gaol, he is washed up and totally discredited. His reputation in tatters is a far worse sentence for him than the gaol time.

and yet he still holds to this day an Order or Australia.. Huh

Scott Morrison supports child abuse, and he's a member of the Australian Parliament.

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Reply #1256 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:46pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:43pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 7:00pm:

Rolf has got away with his 'funny stuff' for decades. We all have to pay the piper at some stage of our life, for the misdeeds we have done along the way.

Rolf is currently paying the Piper and will continue to do so until he dies...gaol or no gaol, he is washed up and totally discredited. His reputation in tatters is a far worse sentence for him than the gaol time.

and yet he still holds to this day an Order or Australia.. Huh

Scott Morrison supports child abuse, and he's a member of the Australian Parliament.

but you digress..

not that there's anything wrong with it... Undecided

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38526 Gender:	Re: Rolf facing the music Reply #1258 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 9:12pm Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 9:07pm: True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:43pm: and yet he still holds to this day an Order or Australia.. Worse still, he's still in denial. As you (or anyone) would appear to be if you genuinely and steadfastly maintained your innocence after a conviction.
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Re: Rolf facing the music
Reply #1259 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 11:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:46pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:43pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 7:00pm:

Rolf has got away with his 'funny stuff' for decades. We all have to pay the piper at some stage of our life, for the misdeeds we have done along the way.

Rolf is currently paying the Piper and will continue to do so until he dies...gaol or no gaol, he is washed up and totally discredited. His reputation in tatters is a far worse sentence for him than the gaol time.

and yet he still holds to this day an Order or Australia.. Huh

Scott Morrison supports child abuse, and he's a member of the Australian Parliament.

Pay bigtime gretchen

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