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Reply #165 - May 30th, 2014 at 9:00am
 
we definitely live in a sick society today.... we are talking about young teenage girls...girls in my day didnt have a clue about being a sex object just because they wore a bikini...now we cannot allow people to photograph children at a swimming carnival thanks to perverts.... if dirty old men dribble after young girls on the beach what does that say for  virile young men?????

no one can prevent looking....but touching or crude comments should not be par for the course in anyones language I dont care which sex you are...

some on here need to ask themselves what will they do if something of this nature was inflicted on your daughter at that age??...


would you say oh thats ok it was only touching or words no harm done?????


well would you??
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Reply #166 - May 30th, 2014 at 9:22am
 
cods wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 6:31pm:
Aussie wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 4:09pm:
How many blokes are there on Australian beaches every weekend looking at 13 year old females who have deliberately chosen to wear bikinis?  Is there not an argument capable of credibility that if you flaunt it, don't be surprised that some bloke looks, and says, "Yeah, nice."  (Please don't try the Muslem bash analogy about meat on offer inviting violence.)  Does that simple act demand that they are sexual predators?





and if those blokes that were looking and thinking went up and told said 13 year old she had a great body and or touched her great body.. he would be in jail wouldnt he???..

13 aussie.. you might approach a 13 year old girl or if you have a 13 year old daughter you might think an older guy leering at her and saying suggestive things was just being nice and saying what agood sort she was

and not mind it at all...

most men I know of would be horrified.


girls of 2  and 3 wear bikinis..little boys wear speedos does that mean they are game for predators..??? Angry Angry.. not in this country unless you are pretty sick.


That last point is a good one, Cods.

Aussie, there is nothing about a child wearing a bikini that should invite adult men to leer at them. You're making it sound as though young girls choose their clothing based on its ability to entice men. My daughter is 13 this year and the thought of adults thinking about her as anything but the innocent she is is pretty off-putting. Where do you draw the line at what's appropriate? Where does admiration end and fantasising begin and is that ok in your book?
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Reply #167 - May 30th, 2014 at 9:26am
 
Aussie wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 10:06pm:
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 9:50pm:
Black Orchid wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 9:39pm:
Any adult male who contemplates/looks at 13 year old girls in any remotely sexual way has problems.

It's sick and predatory but, of course, they think it's ok.  I don't know anyone who would think it is ok.


stupid comment. some 13 year olds look 18. some 18 year olds look 13.


Correct Mr Ian.  "BO" must live in some distant place where there are no beaches, and so she has never seen the parade of bikini clad (whatever age) females parade marching up and down inviting sexual interest.  As the Prosecutor put to Rolf yesterday.....the interest cannot be about the fashion which, as she rightly pointed out, is nothing more than three tiny bits of triangular material. 

The other side of that coin is old, stupid "look at me" blokes wearing budgie (non) smugglers to the beach.



Wow. I'm really surprised at your attitude. It's a stone's throw away from that antiquated idea that women who wear revealing clothing are asking to be raped.

Women who wear bikinis are not inviting sexual interest, let alone young girls - they're sunbaking or swimming.

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Reply #168 - May 30th, 2014 at 9:48am
 
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 8:29pm:
Pasta face, Indecent assault


So clown, you agree that "pedophilia" is in fact a psychiatric term used to describe people who sexually abuse children, that in fact nobody is actually charged with "pedophilia" they are charged with molesting a child, grooming a child for sex, or indecently assaulting a child, or in fact raping a child.......now are you up to date clown, have you in fact caught up? Oh yes, and viewing indecent images of children, i.e. Child pornography
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Reply #169 - May 30th, 2014 at 10:07am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 9:26am:
Aussie wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 10:06pm:
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 9:50pm:
Black Orchid wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 9:39pm:
Any adult male who contemplates/looks at 13 year old girls in any remotely sexual way has problems.

It's sick and predatory but, of course, they think it's ok.  I don't know anyone who would think it is ok.


stupid comment. some 13 year olds look 18. some 18 year olds look 13.


Correct Mr Ian.  "BO" must live in some distant place where there are no beaches, and so she has never seen the parade of bikini clad (whatever age) females parade marching up and down inviting sexual interest.  As the Prosecutor put to Rolf yesterday.....the interest cannot be about the fashion which, as she rightly pointed out, is nothing more than three tiny bits of triangular material. 

The other side of that coin is old, stupid "look at me" blokes wearing budgie (non) smugglers to the beach.



Wow. I'm really surprised at your attitude. It's a stone's throw away from that antiquated idea that women who wear revealing clothing are asking to be raped.

Women who wear bikinis are not inviting sexual interest, let alone young girls - they're sunbaking or swimming.



Superb point Annie. I am somewhat taken aback by the comments straight out of 1955..
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Reply #170 - May 30th, 2014 at 10:07am
 
I see you are online Andrei.............given you are in England, any hints on where I would find more detailed coverage of the Harris trial evidence?????
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Reply #171 - May 30th, 2014 at 10:11am
 
Rhet-Oracle wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 9:48am:
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 8:29pm:
Pasta face, Indecent assault


So clown, you agree that "pedophilia" is in fact a psychiatric term used to describe people who sexually abuse children, that in fact nobody is actually charged with "pedophilia" they are charged with molesting a child, grooming a child for sex, or indecently assaulting a child, or in fact raping a child.......now are you up to date clown, have you in fact caught up? Oh yes, and viewing indecent images of children, i.e. Child pornography



"pedophilia" can be just a sexual attraction to children.

i.e. it doesn't necessarily involve any physical contact.

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Reply #172 - May 30th, 2014 at 10:35am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 10:00pm:
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 9:50pm:
Black Orchid wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 9:39pm:
Any adult male who contemplates/looks at 13 year old girls in any remotely sexual way has problems.

It's sick and predatory but, of course, they think it's ok.  I don't know anyone who would think it is ok.


stupid comment. some 13 year olds look 18. some 18 year olds look 13.


I'd have to back Ian on that one.

One summer in South Carolina, I was lifeguarding (its not as glamorous at all as Baywatch or anything) and I ended up chatting up a girl who I thought would be 18-20 (I was 20).
I asked her out that night but turns out she was 14 and there with her parents.

Shocker, I got out of it pretty quick (given also I was in SC which would probably string me up if I was black,,,) and made my excuses but it really depends on how the girl looks.

Now if someone KNOWS they are 13 - which I assume Rolfie did given he was a family friend - and he ogles her still, I have a problem with that.


My wife has been telling me what a complete bustardo Mr Harris is, as she followed the story, and I did not.
she detailed an account of his letter of apology to me, saying, "well that PROVES it", and got a little irate with me, when I said that I would not jump to that conclusion, from what he had said.
Then his testimony where he admits to an 11 year relationship with this woman, from 18 to 29, when he was in his fifties.
George Clooney is in his fifties, (I think), and I doubt he would be pilloried as a pedo, if he turned up at a do with some 18 to 29 yr old starlet in tow.

Also, we had the case in Melbourne very recently, where an 8 yr old girl, reported being snatched by a stranger, who ripped at her clothes, and hit her, but she struggled, and got away.
MAJOR search for dangerous predator ensues.
Girl, with bruises and torn clothing, later admits to inventing the whole story.
God help some poor bugger if they'd fitted the description she gave.

I do not want this to be taken in any way as defending pedos, I would happily take them all for a long walk along a slippery cliff top, but I have heard many females talk a lot of utter BS, for their own deluded purposes, up to, and including, being raped.

This woman from the Harris story seems to be claiming she was raped for 11 years.
To me, THAT rings alarm bells.
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Reply #173 - May 30th, 2014 at 10:41am
 
Rhet-Oracle wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 9:48am:
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 8:29pm:
Pasta face, Indecent assault


So clown, you agree that "pedophilia" is in fact a psychiatric term used to describe people who sexually abuse children, that in fact nobody is actually charged with "pedophilia" they are charged with molesting a child, grooming a child for sex, or indecently assaulting a child, or in fact raping a child.......now are you up to date clown, have you in fact caught up? Oh yes, and viewing indecent images of children, i.e. Child pornography

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Reply #174 - May 30th, 2014 at 11:02am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 9:26am:
Women who wear bikinis are not inviting sexual interest, let alone young girls - they're sunbaking or swimming.


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Reply #175 - May 30th, 2014 at 11:54am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 10:11am:
Rhet-Oracle wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 9:48am:
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 8:29pm:
Pasta face, Indecent assault


So clown, you agree that "pedophilia" is in fact a psychiatric term used to describe people who sexually abuse children, that in fact nobody is actually charged with "pedophilia" they are charged with molesting a child, grooming a child for sex, or indecently assaulting a child, or in fact raping a child.......now are you up to date clown, have you in fact caught up? Oh yes, and viewing indecent images of children, i.e. Child pornography



"pedophilia" can be just a sexual attraction to children.

i.e. it doesn't necessarily involve any physical contact.



I agree, but there is no charge of "pedophilia" they are charged as mentioned. Pediophilia is a term used to describe the mental state.
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Reply #176 - May 30th, 2014 at 11:59am
 
Rhet-Oracle wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 11:54am:
I agree, but there is no charge of "pedophilia" they are charged as mentioned. Pediophilia is a term used to describe the mental state.


Are cyclists peddlephiliacs?

Just asking.

Don't stone the messenger.
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Reply #177 - May 30th, 2014 at 12:03pm
 
Rhet-Oracle wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 11:54am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 10:11am:
Rhet-Oracle wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 9:48am:
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 8:29pm:
Pasta face, Indecent assault


So clown, you agree that "pedophilia" is in fact a psychiatric term used to describe people who sexually abuse children, that in fact nobody is actually charged with "pedophilia" they are charged with molesting a child, grooming a child for sex, or indecently assaulting a child, or in fact raping a child.......now are you up to date clown, have you in fact caught up? Oh yes, and viewing indecent images of children, i.e. Child pornography



"pedophilia" can be just a sexual attraction to children.

i.e. it doesn't necessarily involve any physical contact.



I agree, but there is no charge of "pedophilia" they are charged as mentioned. Pediophilia is a term used to describe the mental state.



That's right.

It's not illegal to be a pedo.
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Reply #178 - May 30th, 2014 at 1:13pm
 
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 11:07pm:
of course, how could we be so wrong. Young girls wear skimpy clothing showing off their flesh because they dont want attention, how could we be so stupid. Roll Eyes


Most girls wear bikinis because they want a fuller tan when they are sunbaking, they wear short skirts because they are in fashion and to fit in with their peers, not because they want to be ogled by lecherous old men.

Seriously, the attitude of a couple of people here is disturbing.
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Reply #179 - May 30th, 2014 at 1:18pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on May 30th, 2014 at 1:13pm:
ian wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 11:07pm:
of course, how could we be so wrong. Young girls wear skimpy clothing showing off their flesh because they dont want attention, how could we be so stupid. Roll Eyes


Most girls wear bikinis because they want a fuller tan when they are sunbaking, they wear short skirts because they are in fashion and to fit in with their peers, not because they want to be ogled by lecherous old men.

Seriously, the attitude of a couple of people here is disturbing.


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