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Reply #855 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:34pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:06pm:
austranger wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 6:24pm:
cods wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 4:26pm:
austranger wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 11:21am:
While I agree that individually his offences were minor, it is the opportunistic abuse of his position and the constant offending that is serious.
If he weren't the famous person he was I doubt he'd even get a custodial sentence, but because he is he will, and in my opinion, rightly so.
I agree too that there should be follow-up prosecutions of all those who allowed him to get away with it, and in the Saville case too, and the Hey Dad also, if it weren't for their complaisance these offenders would never have been able to do what they did.
In some ways turning a blind eye to offending can be seen to be even worse than the initial offense!  Angry




really....are you for real... ONLY MINOR..........

would you say that if it was your daughter...whats a bit of touching and feeling... OMG. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Are you seriously suggesting that opportunistic public groping is the same as the brutal rape and murder etc that happens all too often?
The families of the victims of the murderers and pornographers might have something to say about that!
Let alone the ongoing horror of those forced into prostitution!
So yes, I'd say his offenses were on the minor end of that scale, but I ask you to read my earlier posts about him and his punishment please.




are you suggesting... brutal murder and rape dpo not start with touching and feeling.......

as a matter of fact my 14 yr old grandson had two girls tell him that a certain boy had done exactly that to them in school grounds...he had the sense to tell the teacher....

14 yr old boy touching two girls.......where do you think that may lead????????..

look at Rolfs history he was touching 8 year olds...do you seriously think had he been the butcher down the street it would have gone further.. he was famous for most of his adult life..he surrounded himself with kids.....

perhaps you should also note about the CHILD PORNOGRAPHY HE VIEWED......

you see even though you may not be touching these children the  fact you buy into view  it.. is what keeps it going... and the poor children.. left to commit suicide or drink themselves into oblivion....


it all starts somewhere aust..a bloke doesnt suddenly become a paedo.overnight...

like children who murder... they usually start off killing animals..theres a lot to Rolf the world didnt know about... even to him making films about Stranger Danger..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So he should be punished for what he might have been going to do, even though he'd never done it in decades of offending? Or are you suggesting he be punished for what others like him do?
It's rather odd, I made a post here on his sentencing that appears to be gone. I must have stuffed up posting it, though I'm sure I saw it on the thread afterwards. I can't imagine it was removed for any reason, or by anyone, but it's not in my post register either, b*ggered if I know?
Whatever, the gist of it was that as he's been a long-term offender using his position to abuse his victims then he deserved the harshest of sentences, not unlike a teacher or similar.
As I've said, I personally believe such crimes should be a capital offence, but the do-goodies won't wear that.
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Reply #856 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:49pm
 
that would be the next step..  most likely..
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Reply #857 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:50pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:18pm:
red baron wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 6:51pm:
It is totally unfair to compare Rolf Harris' crimes with other varieties then rate them on a scale of ten as to importance.

He did the crimes, he psychologically damaged his victims to the point that they are still suffering years after the events.

The learned Judge will give Rolf a sentence in keeping with the seriousness of his crimes, which ARE major not minor.

When a predator preys on young and innocent lives he deserves the full force of the law, I expect he will get it.





I find it really weird because he didnt throw them to the ground and rape them he isnt too bad... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Ive been reading about Todd Carney[ not on here] but some think because he is a good footballer he should be excused .. Grin Grin.. they forget about all the times he has been  e xcused... and look what he does???..

its the same with Rolf..

the entertainment industry well knew what he was like and warned people never to leave him alone with children...and to watch the big hugs....yet it was kept quiet..because of fame..

.he even made Stranger Danger films for school children.....I mean come on!!!!!!!!!... all the while touching up children...

imagine 84 year old touching your 8 year old child like that.......because once you do... then you keep on doing... Angry



Please don't put words in my mouth then castigate me for them, I only said his offending was on the minor end of the scale, I believe I've already made clear what I think about such offending.
You generally post cogently CODS, and I respect you for that, please don't allow your natural repugnance for this subject betray your intellectual abilities.
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Re: Rolf facing the music
Reply #858 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:51pm
 
altho  Bail.?? 

maybe conditional..  is he STILL a risk ..??
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Reply #859 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:57pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 5:41pm:
What about an appeal?



He'll appeal, he'll get bail until the appeal is heard, and who knows?

He'll also appeal any sentence and most likely get it reduced.



He'll die before he ever sees a jail cell - he's so old anyway.
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Reply #860 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 8:02pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:09pm:
red baron wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 6:51pm:
It is totally unfair to compare Rolf Harris' crimes with other varieties then rate them on a scale of ten as to importance.

He did the crimes, he psychologically damaged his victims to the point that they are still suffering years after the events.

The learned Judge will give Rolf a sentence in keeping with the seriousness of his crimes, which ARE major not minor.

When a predator preys on young and innocent lives he deserves the full force of the law, I expect he will get it.



Dear Baron,
You sound like you're just about ready to hang em & hang em high?





What about Karnal?

What do we do in these here parts?
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Reply #861 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 8:02pm
 

I'm Jake the Gland,
Diddle diddle diddle bums
With me extra hand
Diddle diddle diddle bums
Whenever I touch the girls all know
It's just me hand and it won't show
It's Jake the Hand

I'm Jake the Gland
Diddle diddle diddle bums
With some hidden bits
Diddle diddle diddle bums
Whenever I touch 'em on the tits
And feel their softie little bits
It's Just My Hand...


Honestly – I am truly shattered at this business... whether it is all true or not – it is a shame and I feel... dirty... even though I have no personal guilt. So I cover with a little black humour...
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Re: Rolf facing the music
Reply #862 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 8:03pm
 
Emma wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:51pm:
altho  Bail.?? 

maybe conditional..  is he STILL a risk ..??


That got me thinking...  is he likely to re-offend at this stage.../?  probably not.. tho if he has Priapism    Smiley   he could, I suppose.

I was thinking 'other' risks.

The Showman..  the Drama Queen,  the Supreme Ego..  The Man with the Extra Leg (eek) ..

wouldn't it be grand to go out with a splash.. 

sorry for a bit of drama or morbidity or whatever..  Smiley Wink



but imagine...

a double murder suicide...  Wifey Mummy and RH..!!



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Reply #863 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 9:38pm
 
speechless..!!?

well .. hey it was just a thought...  Huh
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Reply #864 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 11:00pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 8:02pm:

I'm Jake the Gland,
Diddle diddle diddle bums
With me extra hand
Diddle diddle diddle bums
Whenever I touch the girls all know
It's just me hand and it won't show
It's Jake the Hand

I'm Jake the Gland
Diddle diddle diddle bums
With some hidden bits
Diddle diddle diddle bums
Whenever I touch 'em on the tits
And feel their softie little bits
It's Just My Hand...


Honestly – I am truly shattered at this business... whether it is all true or not – it is a shame and I feel... dirty... even though I have no personal guilt. So I cover with a little black humour...

Yes, i think we all feel a little bit queasy!

I would expect a fair bit of commentary about this in the years to come as it was all over 25 years ago and most doubted the credibility of the players!
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Re: Rolf facing the music
Reply #865 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 11:00pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 8:02pm:

I'm Jake the Gland,
Diddle diddle diddle bums
With me extra hand
Diddle diddle diddle bums
Whenever I touch the girls all know
It's just me hand and it won't show
It's Jake the Hand

I'm Jake the Gland
Diddle diddle diddle bums
With some hidden bits
Diddle diddle diddle bums
Whenever I touch 'em on the tits
And feel their softie little bits
It's Just My Hand...


Honestly – I am truly shattered at this business... whether it is all true or not – it is a shame and I feel... dirty... even though I have no personal guilt. So I cover with a little black humour...

Yes, i think we all feel a little bit queasy!

I would expect a fair bit of commentary about this in the years to come as it was all over 25 years ago and most doubted the credibility of the players!
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Reply #866 - Jul 1st, 2014 at 11:15pm
 
Deathray is that you..?? 
Sigh..

Oh well,  if they keep him in jail till sentencing ... who knows..?

I guess any Appeal needs to wait till sentencing has been completed..
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Reply #867 - Jul 2nd, 2014 at 12:19am
 
cods wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 7:18pm:
red baron wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 6:51pm:
It is totally unfair to compare Rolf Harris' crimes with other varieties then rate them on a scale of ten as to importance.

He did the crimes, he psychologically damaged his victims to the point that they are still suffering years after the events.

The learned Judge will give Rolf a sentence in keeping with the seriousness of his crimes, which ARE major not minor.

When a predator preys on young and innocent lives he deserves the full force of the law, I expect he will get it.





I find it really weird because he didnt throw them to the ground and rape them he isnt too bad... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Ive been reading about Todd Carney[ not on here] but some think because he is a good footballer he should be excused .. Grin Grin.. they forget about all the times he has been  e xcused... and look what he does???..

its the same with Rolf..

the entertainment industry well knew what he was like and warned people never to leave him alone with children...and to watch the big hugs....yet it was kept quiet..because of fame..

.he even made Stranger Danger films for school children.....I mean come on!!!!!!!!!... all the while touching up children...

imagine 84 year old touching your 8 year old child like that.......because once you do... then you keep on doing... Angry

He was found guilty of indecent assault, not kiddy fiddling. Wake up to yourself you slanderous old crone.
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Reply #868 - Jul 2nd, 2014 at 12:22am
 
Well Doh !  Ian

can't do anything but slag other posters off can you..?? 
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Reply #869 - Jul 2nd, 2014 at 12:25am
 
indecent assault, no biggie. Going on precedent he wont get a significant jail term. apologies to the lynch mob, go and torture a cat or something to get your jollies instead.
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