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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138342 Gender:	Re: About that "infidel tax" on halal products Reply #105 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:27pm Phemanderac wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:10pm: What really surprises me about the seven pages of this thread is that there are not more people vehemently opposed to the cruel, inhumane and deplorable live export industry... Irrational hate and blind bigotry trumps your concern for animal welfare.
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Reply #106 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:27pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:10pm:

What really surprises me about the seven pages of this thread is that there are not more people vehemently opposed to the cruel, inhumane and deplorable live export industry...

Irrational hate and blind bigotry trumps your concern for animal welfare.

Correct!

Phem's a rightwing nutjob. Wears underpants with a swastika sign.

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Reply #107 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:43pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:27pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:10pm:

What really surprises me about the seven pages of this thread is that there are not more people vehemently opposed to the cruel, inhumane and deplorable live export industry...

Irrational hate and blind bigotry trumps your concern for animal welfare.

Correct!

Phem's a rightwing nutjob. Wears underpants with a swastika sign.

Are you offended by the swastika, or the underpants?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96166 Gender:	Re: About that "infidel tax" on halal products Reply #108 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 9:08pm No one has the right not to be offended.
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Reply #109 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 1:56pm

Bigots win - at the expense of Australian farmers:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-09/company-drops-halal-certification-due-to-s...

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An aggressive social media campaign pushing for a boycott on Halal products has forced a South Australian company to drop the accreditation and ditch a deal that was worth $50,000 a year.

The Fleurieu Milk and Yoghurt Company came under fire last week on its social media page with people suggesting the fee it paid to become Halal-certified was being used to fund terrorism.

A claim based on rock solid evidence - of course.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #110 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 4:37pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 1:56pm:

Bigots win - at the expense of Australian farmers:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-09/company-drops-halal-certification-due-to-s...

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An aggressive social media campaign pushing for a boycott on Halal products has forced a South Australian company to drop the accreditation and ditch a deal that was worth $50,000 a year.

The Fleurieu Milk and Yoghurt Company came under fire last week on its social media page with people suggesting the fee it paid to become Halal-certified was being used to fund terrorism.

A claim based on rock solid evidence - of course.

When the leftists were outraged at halal slaughter methods in Indonesia they stopped our live export trade which punished everyone in our meat industry right down to truck drivers along with farmers,these leftists were happy to punish our farmers for the behaviour of muslims.

Of course the government is being sued by farmers who suffered from the knee jerk reaction from the government in outlawing live exports.

So what cost our farmers more was it the live export bans or this pathetic $50K from one airline?

Some of us object to halal/kosher or any other branding based on superstitions from dusty old books from the dark ages.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: About that "infidel tax" on halal products Reply #111 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 6:53pm This is Baron confused over whether he condemns or supports halal slaughter.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96166 Gender:	Re: About that "infidel tax" on halal products Reply #112 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 7:00pm Yes, sounds like he’s confused about Freeeeedom too. For farmers and cows, anyway. Do we support our farmers and cows and leftard supporters, or do we condemn Islam? Food for thought.
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Reply #113 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 7:09pm

Baron clearly supports our producers getting good trading deals. The representative of the farmers group that supply Fleurieu Milk expressed his frustration over losing this deal with the Emirates. You also had a rep from the ANZAC biscuit company lashing out at the anti-certification campaign waged against them. They both say halal certification creates excellent business opportunities for Australian producers.These are the people FD claims are the poor victims of exploitation and raw deals by the evil halal certifiers.

But no doubt Baron is there in solidarity with the farmers - condemning the bigots who deprived the farmers of this trading deal.

Isn't he?

Baron??

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #114 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:22am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 7:09pm:

Baron clearly supports our producers getting good trading deals. The representative of the farmers group that supply Fleurieu Milk expressed his frustration over losing this deal with the Emirates. You also had a rep from the ANZAC biscuit company lashing out at the anti-certification campaign waged against them. They both say halal certification creates excellent business opportunities for Australian producers.These are the people FD claims are the poor victims of exploitation and raw deals by the evil halal certifiers.

But no doubt Baron is there in solidarity with the farmers - condemning the bigots who deprived the farmers of this trading deal.

Isn't he?

Baron??

I wonder how many farmers went broke because of a $50K yoghurt deal with Emirates airline.

As the article stated it only needs halal certification if it contains gelatine which it does not.

Last week when the halal fee was paid this yoghurt was considered halal, with no fee being paid and no change to the product it is now questionable in muslim minds whether it is halal or not.

So the only thing that makes this product halal is whether the halal extortion fee has been paid or not, what a rort.

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Reply #115 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:50am

Ah yes - a once-off $1000 fee - what a rort!!

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:22am:

As the article stated it only needs halal certification if it contains gelatine which it does not.

I assume all food products being sold to the UAE require halal certification, regardless of whats in them. Thats the cost of getting a trade deal with that country. Any Australian food company would pounce at the opportunity and neither the company or the farmers rep seemed to think they were being "rorted" - quite the opposite in fact.

I wonder if you recognise your own hypocricy Baron - you feign outrage at the "lefties" cutting off a lucrative live-export trade with Indonesia, yet when anti-islam intimidation campaigns cuts off other trading deals with muslim markets (and this is not just about a relatively small $50k deal), all of a sudden you are scraping around for excuses for why its ok.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18574 Gender:	Re: About that "infidel tax" on halal products Reply #116 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:54am polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:50am: I wonder if you recognise your own hypocricy Baron - The only hypocrisy i see is from muslims who say it is only halal if a fee is paid. There is no gelatine in their products therefore no halal certification is needed for it to be considered halal.
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Reply #117 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 12:13pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:54am:

The only hypocrisy i see is from muslims who say it is only halal if a fee is paid.

even at deflection you fail Baron.

You are perfectly fine with Australian producers benefiting from the "evil muslim ways" - as long as its the "lefties" who are ruining the party.

As soon as its your islamophobe buddies trashing the deals, you are full of excuses (and bad deflections).

As for your attempted deflection, all trade deals cost something. The producers and the exporters (you know, the people actually impacted by all this) certainly aren't complaining - in fact they are dead keen on securing these deals. Because the benefits far outweigh the costs. Just like where you imply that the "cost" of inhumane slaughter far outweighs the benefit of the trade - otherwise you wouldn't be slamming the "lefties" for trashing the trade.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: About that "infidel tax" on halal products Reply #118 - Nov 13^th, 2014 at 12:47pm Baron just hates all Muslims and anything to do with their religion. It trumps all his other concerns. edit
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