Gandalf you can barely tell the difference between a government dictating who can do business with who, and a company deciding for themselves under the influence of market forces.
polite_gandalf wrote on May 16
th, 2014 at 7:58pm:
freediver wrote on May 16
th, 2014 at 7:54pm:
The Indonesian government is neither supplier nor customer.
The Indonesian government are supplying halal certificates through their Australian subsidiaries.
The free market gives the customers the power to boycott the extortionists and either turn to a cheaper supplier or force their original supplier to supply at more reasonable prices - which seems to be exactly what happened.
polite_gandalf wrote on May 16
th, 2014 at 7:24pm:
freediver wrote on May 16
th, 2014 at 6:47pm:
The abbatoirs pay the tax.
Bingo! I think you're starting to get it!
Next step is to try and understand the abbattoirs are paying for a service - the service of having their meat halal certified, and opening themselves up to a much wider market. And as a consequence they are a) not inclined to pass the small certification cost to the consumer given that their new profit potential far outweighs the certification cost, and b) perfectly free to boycott the wannabe extortionists who foolishly want thousands of dollars for their halal certificates, when they can easily turn to the certifiers who charge just a couple of hundred.
Its called the free market - I believe we have been through this before.
And congratulations are in order - I think this was your first post in this thread without using the word taqqiya
polite_gandalf wrote on May 16
th, 2014 at 7:49pm:
freediver wrote on May 16
th, 2014 at 7:32pm:
Does that sound like a free market to you?
Yep - text book free market, as I mentioned before.
Supplier attempts to extort their customer, customer responds by boycotting and (presumably) turning to a cheaper supplier. Extortioner loses. I believe we've been through this before.
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 26
th, 2014 at 7:31am:
freediver wrote on Feb 25
th, 2014 at 10:11pm:
These stickers are being sold by one nation candidates. I think you can still buy them online. No government is forcing anyone to buy them (or giving businesses the "option" of paying tens of thousands of dollars for them or be barred from the market).
Actually, being "barred" from a market is not anti-capitalist - it is consistent with the free-market principle that a trader can trade with whomever they damn well please - with whatever conditions they please.
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22
nd, 2014 at 8:08pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 22
nd, 2014 at 9:06am:
It is not a "textbook example of how capitalism is supposed to work" when businesses are forced out of a market (the one market they are in) by government intervention
Actually its the MUI that is being forced out of business - or at least forced to compromise. The Queensland abbatoirs who are boycotting are demonstrating their bargaining power, and either the MUI will relent and offer more reasonable terms, or the Australian producers will find a better deal elsewhere. Or in other words, exploiters will be punished - exactly as per classic free market theory