freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:


Yep - text book free market, as I mentioned before.

Supplier attempts to extort their customer, customer responds by boycotting and (presumably) turning to a cheaper supplier. Extortioner loses. I believe we've been through this before.

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:


The Indonesian government are supplying halal certificates through their Australian subsidiaries.

The free market gives the customers the power to boycott the extortionists and either turn to a cheaper supplier or force their original supplier to supply at more reasonable prices - which seems to be exactly what happened.

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 8:02pm:


Gee I don't know FD - I may be going out on a limb here, but it appears the suppliers boycotted their suppliers, which caused their trade to stop.

Is this a trick question?

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 7:07pm:


The 2007 FD quoting unknown sources from the Courier Mail?

Unthinkable.

The 2014 FD?

Par for the course.

What happened, FD? All grown up now, eh?

We’ll save you a nice spot next to Herbie and the old boy.

Just stay away from the old boy’s cheese offerings. He steals it from a pan kept under Herbie’s bed.

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 10:00pm:


Think for ourselves? Oh, FD, you are a one.

The crap came from the first site in a Google search on Australian Halal certification. Haven’t you looked?

Don’t blame me. I did give you a tip, you know.

Karnal wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 10:04pm:


I can certify you for 50c if you'd like. That's not really what this is about though is it?

You can get Halal stickers online for the cost of printing them. I doubt they could stop you putting them on your ham and cheese sandwiches.

halal  certification is the mark of the beast on our goods as predicted in Rev 13:17

Revelations 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

So who is this beast?

Well Rev 13:18 tells us who it is

Revelations 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


This site explains it below for those who want to understand

Below is a picture of a typewritten Interlinear Greek text of the 666 in Revelation 13:18.



Reading from left to right, the first Greek letter, χ (pronounced “chi”) has a numerical value of 600.

The middle Greek letter, ξ, is pronounced “xi”, and it has a numerical value of 60.

The third Greek letter, ς, is pronounced “stigma”. Although its assigned numerical value has changed since the first century, back in the first century the stigma had a numerical value of 6. We might also note that the stigma has a literal meaning of “scar, mark, or badge of service”.

When we put all of these letters together we get Χξς, which has a numerical value of 600 + 60 +6 = 666.

The Islamic 666 hypothesis tells us that Yochanan was shown a vision of the Arabic as the ‘Bismallah’ (the “Name of Allah”), shown below.



If we flip the Bismallah (the Name of Allah) around, we can see a striking similarity to the Codex Vaticanus, which is widely believed to be the oldest known Greek manuscript still extant, dated circa 350 CE. The line above the xi (under the words “A.D. 350”) is not an underline, but is actually part of the hand-written text.



Crossed swords are commonly used in Islam to denote conquest. Therefore, if we add crossed swords to the left of the middle character (xi), and remember that the stigma on the right has the meaning of ‘scar, mark, or badge of service’ we get crossed swords, the Name of Allah (Bismallah), and the word ‘mark’ (Χξς).


Going on the evil ways of muslims around the globe, I'll put my trust in the above statement that islam is the beast of Revelations.

halal certification is the mark of the beast required to buy and sell

A step by step explanation / rebuttal of the ancient Greek text and the Arabic bismillah, yes I am interested.