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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	This woman is in serious trouble with the law. May 15^th, 2014 at 9:10pm link We can only hope she manages to escape the punishment that is being planned for her.
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Re: This woman is in serious trouble with the law.
Reply #1 - May 15^th, 2014 at 9:18pm

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Sudanese woman, 27, who is a doctor and eight months PREGNANT to be flogged to death for the 'crime' of marrying a Christian man
Christian mother pregnant with her second child has been formally convicted of adultery and apostasy (deserting religion)
The crimes are punishable by 100 lashes and death
Having been born in Sudan, Ibrahim is considered a Muslim by birth, making her marriage to Wani, a non-Muslim, illegal
The punishment will be carried out after her child in born who will then be given to the father to look after

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2628895/Sudanese-woman-eight-months-pregnant-flogged-death-unless-she.html#ixzz31mYRVyQk
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Reply #2 - May 15^th, 2014 at 9:21pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:18pm:

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Sudanese woman, 27, who is a doctor and eight months PREGNANT to be flogged to death for the 'crime' of marrying a Christian man
Christian mother pregnant with her second child has been formally convicted of adultery and apostasy (deserting religion)
The crimes are punishable by 100 lashes and death
Having been born in Sudan, Ibrahim is considered a Muslim by birth, making her marriage to Wani, a non-Muslim, illegal
The punishment will be carried out after her child in born who will then be given to the father to look after

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2628895/Sudanese-woman-eight-months-pregnant-flogged-death-unless-she.html#ixzz31mYRVyQk
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Sometimes I think maybe a One World New Order might not be such a bad thing if it means getting rid of insane monsters who are in charge of whole nations of people.

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Re: This woman is in serious trouble with the law.
Reply #3 - May 15^th, 2014 at 9:22pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:18pm:

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Sudanese woman, 27, who is a doctor and eight months PREGNANT to be flogged to death for the 'crime' of marrying a Christian man
Christian mother pregnant with her second child has been formally convicted of adultery and apostasy (deserting religion)
The crimes are punishable by 100 lashes and death
Having been born in Sudan, Ibrahim is considered a Muslim by birth, making her marriage to Wani, a non-Muslim, illegal
The punishment will be carried out after her child in born who will then be given to the father to look after

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2628895/Sudanese-woman-eight-months-pregnant-flogged-death-unless-she.html#ixzz31mYRVyQk
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Muslims here would do the same if we allowed them.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40769 Gender:	Re: This woman is in serious trouble with the law. Reply #4 - May 15^th, 2014 at 9:55pm bobby - course they would. it's in the Koran. that's why they are a bit tight lipped about boko haram kidnapping Christian girls. the ends are the same, just different means of getting there.
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Reply #5 - May 15^th, 2014 at 11:20pm

Sounds like the corrupt military dictator who runs the country needs a distraction from his domestic problems.

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...President Omar al-Bashir's government is facing a huge economic and political challenge after the 2011 secession of South Sudan, which was Sudan's main source of oil.

A decision by Bashir last year to cut subsidies and impose austerity measures prompted violent protests in which dozens were killed and hundreds were injured...

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/05/sudan-woman-faces-death-penalty-apo...

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Two major Saudi Arabian banks have joined western financial institutions in cutting off dealings with Sudan.

Al Rajhi and Ahly banks are the latest to stop doing business with the North African state, adding to Sudan's isolation and further straining its cash-starved economy.

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/africa/2014/03/saudi-banks-join-us-sanctions-agai...

The leader of the Islamist movement in Sudan has called for Sudan's president to surrender to the International Criminal Court:

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Hassan al-Turabi

Al-Turabi has espoused progressive Islamist ideas, such as the embrace of democracy, healing the breach and expanding the rights of women...

...He opposed the death penalty for apostasy from Islam...

...On 12 January 2009, al-Turabi called on Bashir to surrender himself to the International Criminal Court for the sake of the country, while holding Bashir politically responsible for war crimes in Darfur...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_al-Turabi

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Reply #7 - May 16^th, 2014 at 6:36am

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:55pm:

bobby - course they would. it's in the Koran.

that's why they are a bit tight lipped about boko haram kidnapping Christian girls.
the ends are the same, just different means of getting there.

Have you noticed that it's not on the news here in Australia?

Sounds like our news is highly controlled.

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Reply #8 - May 16^th, 2014 at 6:40am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 11:55pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:55pm:

bobby - course they would. it's in the Koran.

What specifically sprint? Death by flogging for marrying a christian? If you wouldn't mind just showing me the specific sura and ayat, that would be great thanks.

You're the Koran expert - you show us.

How about condemning it in public right here on Ozpolitic?

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Reply #9 - May 16^th, 2014 at 8:27am

Bobby. wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 6:40am:

You're the Koran expert - you show us.

You want me to make up a verse that is not there? Ah yes, sorry I forgot thats how we work around here.

This should do...

Sura 114 verse 29:

And ye shall seize any 8 month pregnant woman who takes as her husband those amongst the people of the book and flay her savagely until she is dead - ensuring also that the unborn child suffers and dies. And ye shall ignore all previous commands regarding the need to protect and nurture the innocent babes. And Allah is all compassionate, all merciful.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #11 - May 16^th, 2014 at 8:54am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 11:55pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:55pm:

bobby - course they would. it's in the Koran.

What specifically sprint? Death by flogging for marrying a christian? If you wouldn't mind just showing me the specific sura and ayat, that would be great thanks.

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Re: This woman is in serious trouble with the law.
Reply #12 - May 16^th, 2014 at 11:07am

Bobby. wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:22pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:18pm:

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Sudanese woman, 27, who is a doctor and eight months PREGNANT to be flogged to death for the 'crime' of marrying a Christian man
Christian mother pregnant with her second child has been formally convicted of adultery and apostasy (deserting religion)
The crimes are punishable by 100 lashes and death
Having been born in Sudan, Ibrahim is considered a Muslim by birth, making her marriage to Wani, a non-Muslim, illegal
The punishment will be carried out after her child in born who will then be given to the father to look after

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2628895/Sudanese-woman-eight-months-pregnant-flogged-death-unless-she.html#ixzz31mYRVyQk
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Muslims here would do the same if we allowed them.

Ah!!!!!

At last, the pennies are beginning to drop!

Thanks bobby.

I apologise in advance, for my verbose response to your post.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: This woman is in serious trouble with the law.
Reply #13 - May 16^th, 2014 at 11:13am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Bobby. wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 6:40am:

You're the Koran expert - you show us.

You want me to make up a verse that is not there? Ah yes, sorry I forgot thats how we work around here.

This should do...

Sura 114 verse 29:

And ye shall seize any 8 month pregnant woman who takes as her husband those amongst the people of the book and flay her savagely until she is dead - ensuring also that the unborn child suffers and dies. And ye shall ignore all previous commands regarding the need to protect and nurture the innocent babes. And Allah is all compassionate, all merciful.

In the UK, the 'all compassionate, all merciful'
moslem community, show how it is done.....

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Murder girl's five cries for help that were ignored
By FIONA BARTON and STEPHEN WRIGHT
11th June 2007
Five police officers are under investigation after a series of terrible blunders left a young Muslim woman at the mercy of killers in her own family.
....It also emerged that in the two months before her death she had warned police four times that she believed her family wanted to murder her.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-461280/Murder-girls-cries-help-ignored.html

The Times
February 05, 2005
Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family
By Anthony Browne
While Christians who turn to Islam are feted, the 200,000 Muslims who turn away are faced with abuse, violence and even murder
For police, religious authorities and politicians, it is an issue so sensitive that they are accused by victims of refusing to respond to appeals for help.
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article510589.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1

Many young muslim women are being murdered by family members, because they seek to escape the stiffling control ISLAM has over their lives [through their families].

And young muslim women in particular are being targeted, because of their vulnerability, and powerlessness.

These young women are being killed, because they are [easy] 'targets of opportunity', within the muslim community.

THE SHAME OF MUSLIM DAUGHTERS MARRYING 'KUFFAR' IS NOT TO BE TOLERATED.

ISLAM's highest authority, Allah, in the Koran, instructs muslims on the great shame of muslim daughters engaging in 'multicultural' tolerance.....

"Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.221

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #14 - May 16^th, 2014 at 11:30am

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Sudanese woman, 27, who is a doctor and eight months PREGNANT to be flogged to death for the 'crime' of marrying a Christian man
Christian mother pregnant with her second child has been formally convicted of adultery and apostasy (deserting religion)
The crimes are punishable by 100 lashes and death
Having been born in Sudan, Ibrahim is considered a Muslim by birth, making her marriage to Wani, a non-Muslim, illegal
The punishment will be carried out after her child in born who will then be given to the father to look after

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2628895/Sudanese-woman-eight-months-pregnant-flogged-death-unless-she.html#ixzz31mYRVyQk
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And a moslem woman, marry a Christian man, IS A CAPITAL CRIME [i.e. deserving of death], in ISLAM.

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How does the ISLAMIC deity describe Christians [and Jews] ?

"....the People of the Book......among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

A moslem woman, marry a Christian ????

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

Therefore, if a moslem woman, marries a Christian man, she becomes an apostate, and unworthy to live.

ISLAMIC law texts declare, moslems can 'lawfully' kill 'unbelievers'/apostates,

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

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"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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