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Reply #60 - May 18th, 2014 at 11:37pm
 
Yes, equality was a western idea. I accept it and like it. Why not can I use this idea to defend my own culture? Culture and religion freedom is one of the human rights. But I guess, you racists don't know what's human rights, like Nazi.

On the other hand, you said you protect western culture, but you refuse equality, the most important element in western culture.

Chauvinism? Are you talking about yourself?

Soren wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 8:47pm:
Bowen wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 8:11pm:
Your problem is, you don't know how to live with Chinese migrants equally. Many old Chinese migrants may not know what's equal, but we know.


No you don't. Chinese chauvinism is all you know.

Equality is a Western idea. It would never have emerged from China. You are rallying a Western idea in defence of your Chinese chauvinism. In other words, you could not make any of these claims IN CHINA, to counter Chinese chauvinism.

But here you are, defending Chinese chauvinism by deploying wholly un-Chinese ideas - freedom,  equality. Ideas totally absent from 5000 years of glorious Chinese history and remaining absent to this day.

You are really, really conflicted about the inferiority of Chinese culture. You want it to count for something but it doesn't, not even in your own life - you left it, knowing it's buggered despite all the glorification. If it was really that great. you would be there, building the great Chinese civilisation. But you are here because you are betting on this society, not China.


You are trying to cover up your shameless, utter opportunism, China plate. That's all you are doing  - and failing at it. People see through you.i



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Reply #61 - May 18th, 2014 at 11:41pm
 
Look Herbert, I come to contribute to Australia in my way. Living in my own culture in my rights and liberty. I try to judge who are friends, and who are bad guys. I try to learn the advantages from the friends, but I will never agree with the racists. They are bad guys.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 9:02pm:
A lot of insight there, Soren.

Bowen ~ try to learn from what people say here. It's an unofficial tuition that will benefit you if you can put your ego aside for long enough to learn.




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Reply #62 - May 18th, 2014 at 11:50pm
 
Bowen wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 8:11pm:
Your problem is, you don't know how to live with Chinese migrants equally. Many old Chinese migrants may not know what's equal, but we know.

We have more confidence and are proud of our culture as you are proud your culture. As I said, we are not refugee, we are scientists, engineers, thinkers, ... We will participate to the society as equal members. You are no more superior. That's why you hate us. It's 21th century, you'd better fit for it, learn to live with other cultures equally.

Quantum wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 12:21pm:
Bowen wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 11:43am:
When more and more well educated Chinese come to Australia, you will meet more and more Chinese Australian like me. Different from most of the Chinese migrants you met before, we are scientists, philosophers, thinkers. We contribute to Australia, and will participate to lead this country too.

hazy123 wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 8:25am:
Bowen is really passionate about the struggle of the Chinese people and really passionate about the racism and ignorance of Australians. And where is he? Yep, you guessed it. Guzzlin' down big macs in Australia. Please explain!!!



We were happier with the old Chinese immigrants. The ones who knew how lucky they were to be here and whose kids grew up to be as Australian as any white child. Your type have come to make china 2.0. We sure as hell don't want you participating in leading us. In fact you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote. I can see the day when there are enough of you china faithful types living here so as to vote democracy away.



Still playing the race card. Still trying to pretend that this is about the big bad white men who hate innocent loveable Chinese people because they are different. All BS. I treat my Chinese friends with as much respect as any of my white friends. But then again, my Chinese friends are Australians, not Chinese arseholes like yourself.

This comment here is the real problem;

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We have more confidence and are proud of our culture as you are proud your culture.


You are so proud of your culture that you left it to live in my culture. Now you want to say that you can take the hospitality that my culture has offered you and reject it by bringing your failed culture with you.

In the middle of the ocean or on the surface of the moon, you can argue as much as you want that your Chinese culture is equall to Australian culture. Buy here, in Australia, your culture ain't worth shlt. You have come into our house, you will live and play by our ways or you can bugger off back home.

Australia is not the UN. There are no 'we all have different ways, but here in this room we are all equals' political diplomacy type ideas. Australia is Australia, it has its own ways and it's own culture. Respect it, fit in, or bugger off. It cannot be made any clearer than that.
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Reply #63 - May 18th, 2014 at 11:55pm
 
Bowen wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 11:41pm:
Look Herbert, I come to contribute to Australia in my way. Living in my own culture in my rights and liberty. I try to judge who are friends, and who are bad guys. I try to learn the advantages from the friends, but I will never agree with the racists. They are bad guys.


Yes, you have the freedom to return to china at anytime. You also have the right to remain in our culture. You don't have the right to destroy our culture by replacing it with your own.
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Reply #64 - May 19th, 2014 at 12:00am
 
Bowen wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 11:37pm:
Yes, equality was a western idea. I accept it and like it. Why not can I use this idea to defend my own culture? Culture and religion freedom is one of the human rights. But I guess, you racists don't know what's human rights, like Nazi.

On the other hand, you said you protect western culture, but you refuse equality, the most important element in western culture.

Chauvinism? Are you talking about yourself?


You throw the word equality around like you throw the word racist around. But I noticed that you have no tolerance of Nazi's. No equality there. If someone wants to live as a nazi in Australia don't they have the freedom to do that? What if thousands of them want to buy out a part of a city and live in their little Nazi ghetto? Don't they have the freedom to do that?

Careful of your answers. You may just realise why we don't want you here either.
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Reply #65 - May 19th, 2014 at 10:42am
 
Bowen wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 11:41pm:
Look Herbert, I come to contribute to Australia in my way. Living in my own culture in my rights and liberty. I try to judge who are friends, and who are bad guys. I try to learn the advantages from the friends, but I will never agree with the racists. They are bad guys.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 9:02pm:
A lot of insight there, Soren.

Bowen ~ try to learn from what people say here. It's an unofficial tuition that will benefit you if you can put your ego aside for long enough to learn.



If you are a first generation Chinese here in Australia, then just relax and be who you are.

I've met enough of your second generation Aussie-Chinese and Vietnamese to know they have become good Chopstick Australians who are friendly and a great addition to Australian society.

Just relax. Don't be so stressed and paranoid.

If you check under your bed every night you'll find there are no racists there.  Smiley   

They're all outside in the local park wearing white hoods and burning crosses ...


Just kidding! Learn to LAUGH, Mr Bowen. It'll help you to relax.
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Reply #66 - May 19th, 2014 at 3:06pm
 
Adamant wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 3:10pm:
Yeh? I have been told by users in the building industry they are a god send


They work for less, so cheap you could pay them in cash!

Adamant wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 3:10pm:
Go to Goodna, brill prices! Apparently!


A Vietnamese enclave with supporting council signage is supposed to be the cheapest place to buy heroin around BNE.

Don't get me wrong Herbert the Vietnamese are beautiful people. I have spent two months on holiday in Nam. The accommodation food and historical sights were brilliant. I would recommend to all of any age. 

Recommend people go soon as the Russians like the spot, but you will not like the Russians!  


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Reply #67 - May 19th, 2014 at 3:23pm
 
Adamant wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
Recommend people go soon as the Russians like the spot, but you will not like the Russians!  


I lived with my Russian aunt for 5 years as a boy, and my brother's wife was Russian, and my niece speaks fluent Russian ~ and enjoyed her holiday in Russia last year ...  Cool


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Reply #68 - May 19th, 2014 at 3:25pm
 
Quantum wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 11:55pm:
Yes, you have the freedom to return to china at anytime. You also have the right to remain in our culture. You don't have the right to destroy our culture by replacing it with your own.


That won't happen ~ I have Jackie Chan's word on that.
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Reply #69 - May 19th, 2014 at 3:33pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 3:23pm:
Adamant wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
Recommend people go soon as the Russians like the spot, but you will not like the Russians!  


I lived with my Russian aunt for 5 years as a boy, and my brother's wife was Russian, and my niece speaks fluent Russian ~ and enjoyed her holiday in Russia last year ...  Cool




The Russian mafia Herbert!
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Reply #70 - May 19th, 2014 at 5:16pm
 
Adamant wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 3:33pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 3:23pm:
Adamant wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
Recommend people go soon as the Russians like the spot, but you will not like the Russians!  


I lived with my Russian aunt for 5 years as a boy, and my brother's wife was Russian, and my niece speaks fluent Russian ~ and enjoyed her holiday in Russia last year ...  Cool




The Russian mafia Herbert!


I accept your apology.

Go in peace and sin no more.
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Reply #71 - May 19th, 2014 at 7:20pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
Adamant wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 3:33pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 3:23pm:
Adamant wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
Recommend people go soon as the Russians like the spot, but you will not like the Russians!  


I lived with my Russian aunt for 5 years as a boy, and my brother's wife was Russian, and my niece speaks fluent Russian ~ and enjoyed her holiday in Russia last year ...  Cool




The Russian mafia Herbert!


I accept your apology.

Go in peace and sin no more.


I offered no apology, just clarification, from what I know all of your relatives could belong to the Russian Mafia, yourself included! 
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Reply #72 - May 19th, 2014 at 8:10pm
 
Adamant wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
I offered no apology, just clarification, from what I know all of your relatives could belong to the Russian Mafia, yourself included! 


Damn! My secret identity has been exposed!

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Reply #73 - May 20th, 2014 at 12:03pm
 
Bowen wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 11:41pm:
Look Herbert, I come to contribute to Australia in my way. Living in my own culture in my rights and liberty. I try to judge who are friends, and who are bad guys. I try to learn the advantages from the friends, but I will never agree with the racists. They are bad guys.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 9:02pm:
A lot of insight there, Soren.

Bowen ~ try to learn from what people say here. It's an unofficial tuition that will benefit you if you can put your ego aside for long enough to learn.



Okay, Bowen.

This is what happens when the Aussie culture of teasing a friend with provocative remarks goes badly wrong.

Very badly wrong.

(Do NOT try this at home, folks. Viewer discretion is advised).


"The defence told the court the killer took offence when Mr Hutchins spoke of sexual frustration and made reference to raping Campbell's wife, a claim the prosecution denied."

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