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Tax breaks on super, capital gains to cost 300B
May 21st, 2014 at 8:02pm
 
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Tax breaks on superannuation, capital gains to cost $300b

Tax breaks on capital gains and superannuation could cost almost $300 billion over the next three years, budget figures show, renewing calls for the Abbott government to scale back concessions.

Economists said exemptions on fresh food, education, health and ­financial supplies from the goods and services tax – estimated to cost almost $78 billion over the period – also need to end.

Updated forecasts from Treasury in the federal budget papers show the capital gains tax exemption on the family home, the 50 per cent CGT discount and superannuation concessions remain the biggest costs to the budget.The figures are an update on Treasury’s tax expenditure statement released earlier this year. It had forecast out to 2017-16, whereas the budget papers forecast further out to 2017-18.

Since most household saving is concentrated in property and superannuation, the cost to federal revenue could grow as a percentage of GDP if no action is taken to tackle the budget sacred cows. Bank of America-Merrill Lynch chief economist Saul Eslake said CGT and super tax breaks should be scaled back, but not totally eliminated.

Deloitte Access Economics partner Chris Richardson said the Commission of Audit had already suggested including the family home in the pensions assets test. “Treasury has considered the potential for something similar around CGT,” he said.


Many people on these boards have already stated how the budget could be fixed with more equitable measures taken instead of taxing the poor and changing our society for the worst.....Why are both major parties ignoring these sacred cows???

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http://www.afr.com/p/national/tax_breaks_on_superannuation_capital_fivqxKm050y3i...
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Reply #1 - May 21st, 2014 at 8:06pm
 
Why are they ignoring the rort of Negative Gearing??

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Reply #2 - May 21st, 2014 at 8:13pm
 
Its a smacking joke. The so called 'budget emergency' would be fixed overnight and we would have a whopping surplus if these ridiculous rorts were fixed.

Naah.. why risk really putting the elites noses out of joint when we can, as usual, just kick the poor and vulnerable and pretend the elites are pulling their weight?
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Reply #3 - May 21st, 2014 at 8:17pm
 
It is only $300 billion over the next three years and growing.....Surely the budget can sustain these concessions to keep the major parties in favour with top income earners.....We all need to pull our weight apart from those who can most afford it after all!!!

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Reply #4 - May 21st, 2014 at 8:32pm
 
I have respectfully asked for a meeting with my local member to discuss the matter.  Wink

We'll see how this goes.
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Reply #5 - May 21st, 2014 at 8:36pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 8:13pm:
Its a smacking joke. The so called 'budget emergency' would be fixed overnight and we would have a whopping surplus if these ridiculous rorts were fixed.

Naah.. why risk really putting the elites noses out of joint when we can, as usual, just kick the poor and vulnerable and pretend the elites are pulling their weight?


Someone here proposed using a Debit Tax on bank transactions to sort things out.
I can't remember the numbers quoted, but they were quite impressive.

What I liked about it was that it seemed to be the fairest form of taxation.

The OAP withdraws $20 and pays his/her 1%.

The Mining Co withdraws (transfers) $20M and pays their 1%.

I like it....

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Reply #6 - May 21st, 2014 at 9:08pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 8:02pm:
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Tax breaks on superannuation, capital gains to cost $300b

Tax breaks on capital gains and superannuation could cost almost $300 billion over the next three years, budget figures show, renewing calls for the Abbott government to scale back concessions.

Economists said exemptions on fresh food, education, health and ­financial supplies from the goods and services tax – estimated to cost almost $78 billion over the period – also need to end.

Updated forecasts from Treasury in the federal budget papers show the capital gains tax exemption on the family home, the 50 per cent CGT discount and superannuation concessions remain the biggest costs to the budget.The figures are an update on Treasury’s tax expenditure statement released earlier this year. It had forecast out to 2017-16, whereas the budget papers forecast further out to 2017-18.

Since most household saving is concentrated in property and superannuation, the cost to federal revenue could grow as a percentage of GDP if no action is taken to tackle the budget sacred cows. Bank of America-Merrill Lynch chief economist Saul Eslake said CGT and super tax breaks should be scaled back, but not totally eliminated.

Deloitte Access Economics partner Chris Richardson said the Commission of Audit had already suggested including the family home in the pensions assets test. “Treasury has considered the potential for something similar around CGT,” he said.


Many people on these boards have already stated how the budget could be fixed with more equitable measures taken instead of taxing the poor and changing our society for the worst.....Why are both major parties ignoring these sacred cows???

Huh Huh Huh

http://www.afr.com/p/national/tax_breaks_on_superannuation_capital_fivqxKm050y3i...



You shouldn't have to pay capital gains tax on your own home.

That's a bad idea.

Better to take away negative gearing.
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Reply #7 - May 21st, 2014 at 9:14pm
 
If the budget is in such a mess, why should home owners (and landlords for that matter) get concessions?
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Reply #8 - May 21st, 2014 at 9:39pm
 
Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:14pm:
If the budget is in such a mess, why should home owners (and landlords for that matter) get concessions?


Quite simply PL, because there is no budget emergency.
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Reply #9 - May 21st, 2014 at 9:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:08pm:
philperth2010 wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 8:02pm:
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Tax breaks on superannuation, capital gains to cost $300b

Tax breaks on capital gains and superannuation could cost almost $300 billion over the next three years, budget figures show, renewing calls for the Abbott government to scale back concessions.

Economists said exemptions on fresh food, education, health and ­financial supplies from the goods and services tax – estimated to cost almost $78 billion over the period – also need to end.

Updated forecasts from Treasury in the federal budget papers show the capital gains tax exemption on the family home, the 50 per cent CGT discount and superannuation concessions remain the biggest costs to the budget.The figures are an update on Treasury’s tax expenditure statement released earlier this year. It had forecast out to 2017-16, whereas the budget papers forecast further out to 2017-18.

Since most household saving is concentrated in property and superannuation, the cost to federal revenue could grow as a percentage of GDP if no action is taken to tackle the budget sacred cows. Bank of America-Merrill Lynch chief economist Saul Eslake said CGT and super tax breaks should be scaled back, but not totally eliminated.

Deloitte Access Economics partner Chris Richardson said the Commission of Audit had already suggested including the family home in the pensions assets test. “Treasury has considered the potential for something similar around CGT,” he said.


Many people on these boards have already stated how the budget could be fixed with more equitable measures taken instead of taxing the poor and changing our society for the worst.....Why are both major parties ignoring these sacred cows???

Huh Huh Huh

http://www.afr.com/p/national/tax_breaks_on_superannuation_capital_fivqxKm050y3i...



You shouldn't have to pay capital gains tax on your own home.

That's a bad idea.

Better to take away negative gearing.


While I am against NG, I am prepared to compromise....

NG on a new-builds only, not existing homes.

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Re: Tax breaks on super, capital gains to cost 300B
Reply #10 - May 21st, 2014 at 9:52pm
 
Take away all tax concessions on superannuation, problem solved
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Reply #11 - May 21st, 2014 at 9:54pm
 
Lobo wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:08pm:
philperth2010 wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 8:02pm:
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Tax breaks on superannuation, capital gains to cost $300b

Tax breaks on capital gains and superannuation could cost almost $300 billion over the next three years, budget figures show, renewing calls for the Abbott government to scale back concessions.

Economists said exemptions on fresh food, education, health and ­financial supplies from the goods and services tax – estimated to cost almost $78 billion over the period – also need to end.

Updated forecasts from Treasury in the federal budget papers show the capital gains tax exemption on the family home, the 50 per cent CGT discount and superannuation concessions remain the biggest costs to the budget.The figures are an update on Treasury’s tax expenditure statement released earlier this year. It had forecast out to 2017-16, whereas the budget papers forecast further out to 2017-18.

Since most household saving is concentrated in property and superannuation, the cost to federal revenue could grow as a percentage of GDP if no action is taken to tackle the budget sacred cows. Bank of America-Merrill Lynch chief economist Saul Eslake said CGT and super tax breaks should be scaled back, but not totally eliminated.

Deloitte Access Economics partner Chris Richardson said the Commission of Audit had already suggested including the family home in the pensions assets test. “Treasury has considered the potential for something similar around CGT,” he said.


Many people on these boards have already stated how the budget could be fixed with more equitable measures taken instead of taxing the poor and changing our society for the worst.....Why are both major parties ignoring these sacred cows???

Huh Huh Huh

http://www.afr.com/p/national/tax_breaks_on_superannuation_capital_fivqxKm050y3i...



You shouldn't have to pay capital gains tax on your own home.

That's a bad idea.

Better to take away negative gearing.


While I am against NG, I am prepared to compromise....

NG on a new-builds only, not existing homes.

Wink



That would discourage people from building new high density flats & units
which is exactly what we need to stop the long drives to work.

Forget about propping up old borer infested, asbestos ridden houses for people to live in..
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Reply #12 - May 21st, 2014 at 10:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:54pm:
Lobo wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:08pm:
philperth2010 wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 8:02pm:
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Tax breaks on superannuation, capital gains to cost $300b

Tax breaks on capital gains and superannuation could cost almost $300 billion over the next three years, budget figures show, renewing calls for the Abbott government to scale back concessions.

Economists said exemptions on fresh food, education, health and ­financial supplies from the goods and services tax – estimated to cost almost $78 billion over the period – also need to end.

Updated forecasts from Treasury in the federal budget papers show the capital gains tax exemption on the family home, the 50 per cent CGT discount and superannuation concessions remain the biggest costs to the budget.The figures are an update on Treasury’s tax expenditure statement released earlier this year. It had forecast out to 2017-16, whereas the budget papers forecast further out to 2017-18.

Since most household saving is concentrated in property and superannuation, the cost to federal revenue could grow as a percentage of GDP if no action is taken to tackle the budget sacred cows. Bank of America-Merrill Lynch chief economist Saul Eslake said CGT and super tax breaks should be scaled back, but not totally eliminated.

Deloitte Access Economics partner Chris Richardson said the Commission of Audit had already suggested including the family home in the pensions assets test. “Treasury has considered the potential for something similar around CGT,” he said.


Many people on these boards have already stated how the budget could be fixed with more equitable measures taken instead of taxing the poor and changing our society for the worst.....Why are both major parties ignoring these sacred cows???

Huh Huh Huh

http://www.afr.com/p/national/tax_breaks_on_superannuation_capital_fivqxKm050y3i...



You shouldn't have to pay capital gains tax on your own home.

That's a bad idea.

Better to take away negative gearing.


While I am against NG, I am prepared to compromise....

NG on a new-builds only, not existing homes.

Wink



That would discourage people from building new high density flats & units
which is exactly what we need to stop the long drives to work.

Forget about propping up old borer infested, asbestos ridden houses for people to live in..


Don't really see how.
People still buy/rent  flats/units.

Think I may have lost something in translation with that bit about old houses.

Not all pre-owned are in bad condition, and are often first homes for young couples.
This is the market I would keep quarantined from NG investors.

Regarding your 'old borer infested, asbestos ridden houses' though. a young couple bought something along those lines across the park from me.

Seriously rundown, but with, as they say, potential.
Leaving themselves the garage to sleep in they completely renovated it themselves.
Totally gutted it and took about 6-7 months.
Did a brilliant job.

Made me feel guilty complaining about painting my eaves.

Still living there, 3 kids....

Smiley

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Re: Tax breaks on super, capital gains to cost 300B
Reply #13 - May 21st, 2014 at 10:39pm
 
Lobo wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 10:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:54pm:
Lobo wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:08pm:
philperth2010 wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 8:02pm:
Quote:
Tax breaks on superannuation, capital gains to cost $300b

Tax breaks on capital gains and superannuation could cost almost $300 billion over the next three years, budget figures show, renewing calls for the Abbott government to scale back concessions.

Economists said exemptions on fresh food, education, health and ­financial supplies from the goods and services tax – estimated to cost almost $78 billion over the period – also need to end.

Updated forecasts from Treasury in the federal budget papers show the capital gains tax exemption on the family home, the 50 per cent CGT discount and superannuation concessions remain the biggest costs to the budget.The figures are an update on Treasury’s tax expenditure statement released earlier this year. It had forecast out to 2017-16, whereas the budget papers forecast further out to 2017-18.

Since most household saving is concentrated in property and superannuation, the cost to federal revenue could grow as a percentage of GDP if no action is taken to tackle the budget sacred cows. Bank of America-Merrill Lynch chief economist Saul Eslake said CGT and super tax breaks should be scaled back, but not totally eliminated.

Deloitte Access Economics partner Chris Richardson said the Commission of Audit had already suggested including the family home in the pensions assets test. “Treasury has considered the potential for something similar around CGT,” he said.


Many people on these boards have already stated how the budget could be fixed with more equitable measures taken instead of taxing the poor and changing our society for the worst.....Why are both major parties ignoring these sacred cows???

Huh Huh Huh

http://www.afr.com/p/national/tax_breaks_on_superannuation_capital_fivqxKm050y3i...



You shouldn't have to pay capital gains tax on your own home.

That's a bad idea.

Better to take away negative gearing.


While I am against NG, I am prepared to compromise....

NG on a new-builds only, not existing homes.

Wink



That would discourage people from building new high density flats & units
which is exactly what we need to stop the long drives to work.

Forget about propping up old borer infested, asbestos ridden houses for people to live in..


Don't really see how.
People still buy/rent  flats/units.

Think I may have lost something in translation with that bit about old houses.

Not all pre-owned are in bad condition, and are often first homes for young couples.
This is the market I would keep quarantined from NG investors.

Regarding your 'old borer infested, asbestos ridden houses' though. a young couple bought something along those lines across the park from me.

Seriously rundown, but with, as they say, potential.
Leaving themselves the garage to sleep in they completely renovated it themselves.
Totally gutted it and took about 6-7 months.
Did a brilliant job.

Made me feel guilty complaining about painting my eaves.

Still living there, 3 kids....

Smiley




Considering that asbestos shouldn't be drilled, sawn or broken then renovating a house
full of asbestos is dangerous to say the least.
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Reply #14 - May 21st, 2014 at 11:43pm
 
Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on May 21st, 2014 at 9:14pm:
If the budget is in such a mess, why should home owners (and landlords for that matter) get concessions?


I think the family home should be off limits, however investment properties should not be allowed to be renovated beyond reason to maximise negative gearing!!!

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