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salad in

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Islam trumps the law
May 24^th, 2014 at 7:19pm

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Muslim man refuses to stand in court due to religion

A MUSLIM man who threatened to “slit the throat” of an intelligence officer has refused to stand for a judge in court.

Milad Bin Ahmad-Shah al-Ahmadzai, 24, yesterday declined to stand as he pleaded guilty to threatening serious harm to a Commonwealth official and using a carriage service to harass and menace.

His lawyer Nick Hanna yesterday told the District Court his client’s refusal to stand was due to his religion.

Judge Ian McClintock queried what religious view prevented al-Ahmadzai from standing, which Mr Hanna was unable to answer.

“It is a perceived view that it is not appropriate for him to stand in court. It is not advancing any discourtesy to the court,” Mr Hanna said.

Commonwealth prosecutor Karen Leavy said “on the face of it it’s disrespectful”.

Mr McClintock did not instruct al-Ahmadzai’s to stand but said he had noted it.

Al-Ahmadzai pleaded guilty in December last year to threatening the intelligence officer in a phone call in May 2013, telling him “I’m gonna crack your neck” and “come near my family again, I’m gonna slit your throat pig”.

He was refused bail. His wife Fatima Elzamtar was in court yesterday with their child. Al-Ahmadzai had been under surveillance by the Joint Counter Terrorism Team since December 2009 because he was “allegedly committing terrorism-related offences”.

The court heard al-Ahmadzai was sentenced to five years and six months jail last year for an ATM ram-raid in 2011.

He is also charged over the attempted murder of a man at Rydalmere on May 1 last year.

The sentencing hearing was adjourned until July.

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/muslim-man-refuses-to-stand-in-court-due...

And so it should be. Islam forbids any system that seeks to enjoy a higher position.

*Correction: If you follow the link it shows Fatima Elzamtar holding a baby. Not true. Fatima was in Marrickville beating the sh!t out of her 3rd husband. That is me, Salad In, holding the infant.

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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: Islam trumps the law Reply #1 - May 24^th, 2014 at 7:23pm Who cares if he didnt stand up. He got sentenced, thats what counts. He did the crime and he going to do the time.
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salad in Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5941	Re: Islam trumps the law Reply #2 - May 24^th, 2014 at 7:30pm wally1 wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 7:23pm: Who cares if he didnt stand up. He got sentenced, thats what counts. He did the crime and he going to do the time. You're on the money Wally1. Phuk the law. It's only Halla and the book of stupidity that matters.
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Reply #3 - May 24^th, 2014 at 8:11pm

wally1 wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

Who cares if he didnt stand up.

He got sentenced, thats what counts.

He did the crime and he going to do the time.

He also shot some poor bastard.

He is a devout muslim.

I hope the devout muslim bastard gets smacking deported.

If YOU are a true AUSTRALIAN you will DEMAND THAT TOO!

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Re: Islam trumps the law Reply #4 - May 24^th, 2014 at 8:27pm wally1 wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 7:23pm: Who cares if he didnt stand up. He got sentenced, thats what counts. He did the crime and he going to do the time. I care if he disrespected the law. casterate him and his family, send them all to any islamic country
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Reply #5 - May 25^th, 2014 at 7:09am

Adamant wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 8:11pm:

wally1 wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

Who cares if he didnt stand up.

He got sentenced, thats what counts.

He did the crime and he going to do the time.

He also shot some poor bastard.

He is a devout muslim.

I hope the devout muslim bastard gets smacking deported.

If YOU are a true AUSTRALIAN you will DEMAND THAT TOO!

Can't you read?

I don't give two stuffs what happens to him.

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Reply #6 - May 25^th, 2014 at 8:22am

What a crock, "ordinary" crims regularly display contempt for the Bench, refusing to stand, hurling abuse, turning their backs, it's up to the Court whether this is punished or ignored, which it often is.
Just because this crim claims religious justification doesn't mean it's true, or that even if it is that it's at all unusual, so what's the big deal? Wink

      As a previous poster said, he's doing the time, justice has been served.
      "True" Australians should demand his deportation?
   I'd ask just how you arrived at that opinion, and what makes for a "true" Aussie anyway, but I'm really not all that interested, I find that those who start issuing claims like that are usually not worth listening to, they seem to allow their prejudices and emotions to use their mouths without going through their fore-brains first. Roll Eyes

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Reply #7 - May 25^th, 2014 at 11:55am

And then 'devout' Muslims wonder why people are not giving them jobs or generally regard them as unassimilated separatists who want to remain so.

They positively invite discrimination and disdain - in other words, they invite the rest of us to pay them back with their own coin of discrimination and disdain.

And then the likes wally and Gandy and True Colour complain about islamophobia and general discrimination against Muslims.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam trumps the law Reply #8 - May 25^th, 2014 at 12:26pm Soren wrote on May 25^th, 2014 at 11:55am: And then the likes wally and Gandy and True Colour complain about islamophobia and general discrimination against Muslims. As it is only reasonable to do so. No matter how undesirable you think islam is, there is no excuse for islamophobia and discrimination against muslims.
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Reply #9 - May 25^th, 2014 at 1:35pm

Soren wrote on May 25^th, 2014 at 11:55am:

And then 'devout' Muslims wonder why people are not giving them jobs or generally regard them as unassimilated separatists who want to remain so.

They positively invite discrimination and disdain - in other words, they invite the rest of us to pay them back with their own coin of discrimination and disdain.

And then the likes wally and Gandy and True Colour complain about islamophobia and general discrimination against Muslims.

Whats the original article got to do with employment? Zero relevance.

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Reply #10 - May 25^th, 2014 at 4:14pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 25^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

Soren wrote on May 25^th, 2014 at 11:55am:

And then the likes wally and Gandy and True Colour complain about islamophobia and general discrimination against Muslims.

As it is only reasonable to do so.

No matter how undesirable you think islam is, there is no excuse for islamophobia and discrimination against muslims.

Well, there are plenty of excuses.

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