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Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes?
May 29^th, 2014 at 9:56pm

I wondered why it took so long to download one page on CNN.

When tested on ping.com the page size is 8 M Bytes!

My connection has been slow lately so it was taking sometimes 15 to 20 seconds to download one page.

Why do they make the pages so large?
The story & say one picture would only be about 200K in size but
they add a whole lot of rubbish that you don't want to see.

Can anyone tell me why?

http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/

Quote:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/28/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-pinging/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Tested from Amsterdam, Netherlands on May 29 at 21:48:54

Page size
8.0MB

Load time
3.87s

Requests
426

Perf. grade
70/100

Your website is faster than 41% of all tested websites

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Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes?
Reply #1 - May 30^th, 2014 at 2:32am

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2014 at 9:56pm:

I wondered why it took so long to download one page on CNN.

When tested on ping.com the page size is 8 M Bytes!

My connection has been slow lately so it was taking sometimes 15 to 20 seconds to download one page.

Why do they make the pages so large?
The story & say one picture would only be about 200K in size but
they add a whole lot of rubbish that you don't want to see.

Can anyone tell me why?

http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/

Quote:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/28/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-pinging/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Tested from Amsterdam, Netherlands on May 29 at 21:48:54

Page size
8.0MB

Load time
3.87s

Requests
426

Perf. grade
70/100

Your website is faster than 41% of all tested websites

You're talking about a news site: yeh, on comps that are slow they seem to take an inordinate amount of time... i think i used that fancy word correctly Cheesy

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Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes?
Reply #2 - May 30^th, 2014 at 9:42am

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2014 at 9:56pm:

I wondered why it took so long to download one page on CNN.

When tested on ping.com the page size is 8 M Bytes!

My connection has been slow lately so it was taking sometimes 15 to 20 seconds to download one page.

Why do they make the pages so large?
The story & say one picture would only be about 200K in size but
they add a whole lot of rubbish that you don't want to see.

Can anyone tell me why?

http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/

Quote:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/28/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-pinging/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Tested from Amsterdam, Netherlands on May 29 at 21:48:54

Page size
8.0MB

Load time
3.87s

Requests
426

Perf. grade
70/100

Your website is faster than 41% of all tested websites

Bad graphics compression is one reason. Ever since connection speeds have improved they throw caution to the wind. Also the smart ad images might be flash images which are essentially code which is larger again and they can report metrics back to other sites creating more traffic. Then there are the ads holding everything up which come from other sites again. One page can average 30 -60 connections its ludicrous.

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Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes?
Reply #3 - May 30^th, 2014 at 8:51pm

Lots of images and video.

I think a lot of sites are designed by software that is a bit like MS word - the result is simple, but there are pages and pages of code behind it.

For the non-interactive parts of this site, I wrote all the code myself. I think that has contributed to a lot of them topping the google results.

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Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes?
Reply #4 - May 31^st, 2014 at 8:39am

freediver wrote on May 30^th, 2014 at 8:51pm:

Lots of images and video.

I think a lot of sites are designed by software that is a bit like MS word - the result is simple, but there are pages and pages of code behind it.

For the non-interactive parts of this site, I wrote all the code myself. I think that has contributed to a lot of them topping the google results.

Yes - thanks FD
I have recently noticed it due to a possible fault with my internet connection.
It could be caused by water on the phone lines.

Last night I was down to 0.3 Mbs
Today I have 0.7 Mbs.
When I was first connected many years ago I was getting 3.2 Mbs.

I am getting sick & tired of Optus &
the giant web pages are not helping.

Imagine the costs for people with lousy mobile phone plans where they pay for every Megabyte downloaded?

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Fat Boffto Buck New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8 Gender:	Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes? Reply #5 - May 31^st, 2014 at 9:40am If you download the add in "Adblock",it negates all these cumbersome adds and the page will load quicker.I use firefox but I'm sure other browsers have it as an add on.
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Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes?
Reply #7 - May 31^st, 2014 at 10:37am

The size of a page depends on the amount of stuff coders pack into them.

The more the page contains, the bigger it is.

If viewed as code (open a page, then use your browser menu to 'view source'
or 'View source code) it can be seen that a web page is basically a document
written in HTML code. In fact, you can write a working web-page in Windows
Notepad. I've done so.

And, just like a Word document, the more you put in it, the bigger it is.

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Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes?
Reply #8 - May 31^st, 2014 at 10:40am

Apologies to Optus.

I am now getting:

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Mirror: Optus
Data: 2 MB
Test Time: 10.01 secs

Your line speed is 1.57 Mbps (1572 kbps).
Your download speed is 197 KB/s (0.19 MB/s).

The problem was a bad connection in the wall where 2 wires
had been twisted together by a security installer 10 years ago.
I fixed it.

Still - my speed is only half that of what I had many years ago.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106960 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes? Reply #9 - May 31^st, 2014 at 10:46am Fat Boffto Buck wrote on May 31^st, 2014 at 9:40am: If you download the add in "Adblock",it negates all these cumbersome adds and the page will load quicker.I use firefox but I'm sure other browsers have it as an add on. I use firefox - it loads faster than IE 11. I don't know about Adblock?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106960 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes? Reply #10 - May 31^st, 2014 at 10:47am freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2014 at 10:15am: My firefox adblock has stopped working lately. About the wet weather - my theory is that you simply get more people online when it is raining. It could be so. Still I saw Telstra pumping out a phone pit full of water 2 days ago.
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Re: Why are internet pages so large in Mega Bytes?
Reply #11 - May 31^st, 2014 at 10:47am

Kat wrote on May 31^st, 2014 at 10:37am:

The size of a page depends on the amount of stuff coders pack into them.

The more the page contains, the bigger it is.

If viewed as code (open a page, then use your browser menu to 'view source'
or 'View source code) it can be seen that a web page is basically a document
written in HTML code. In fact, you can write a working web-page in Windows
Notepad. I've done so.

And, just like a Word document, the more you put in it, the bigger it is.

Stuff the internet sites.
They should make the pages as small as possible.

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