Bobby's video is worth a watch.

For me the salient point in that is that religions, all religions, borrow stuff - hence the commonality of myths and legends. Each individual sect then makes the changes to fit their context.

As to the Jesus question, well, I don't think any of us can say definitively if a bloke named Jesus did or did not exist. The stories attributed to him though are somewhat typical of myths/legends attributed to Gods and Demi Gods throughout history, as demonstrated in the liked video that Bobby has provided.

I know that I have read somewhere this attribution to people and thus elevating them to either God or at least Demi God status occurred at the very beginning of forming religion. Further, this was because the Shaman (elders, wise men, priest or whatever you like) of the day realised as clan tribes came together to form larger communities they would need a "higher authority" then men in order to develop laws for all to live by. I have also read this came about from already existing shared stories of heroes etc - the heroes were elevated and they were the moral bench mark for others to aspire to. I might not make much sense with how I am articulating this, but, it made sense to me when I researching this stuff.

To my mind, man made Gods in the image that best suited his particular context at the given time said Gods sprang into existence. I realise that may be offensive to religious people and would like to say that offense is not my intention here whether they chose to believe me or not.

Maybe, as suggested in the video linked here, his persona represents the Sun as a God, rather than the Son of a God.

Phemanderac wrote on Aug 15^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:


Yup, Sure we can...YES he did..whether he was the 'Son of God' is the question..My bet is 'NO, he wasn't'

"Zeitgeist, the movie" has been around for about 7yrs now. Since then, there have been revisions to the original and two others which revolve primarily around his ideologies. 

The creator, Peter Joseph Merola, has often been the subject of intense criticism for part 1 of the first of his movies/docos/ideologies/conspiracy theories (mostly by the religious) for his belief in the origins of religions.
They often point out minor faults (if they are in fact faults) and try to disregard the entire theme as total hogwash...therefore proving that the commonly adhered to story of Jesus is the real one.

Merola's depiction comes primarily from the work of D.M. Murdoch, who goes by the pen name of Acharya S.  You can see her website here where you can have open discussion about any of the information in Part 1 of Zeitgeist and find plenty more fascinating information.
http://www.truthbeknown.com/

Personally, after first watching the "Part 1" on religions, I was a little relieved to think that religions were actually once based on something tangible.
To me, it makes perfect sense that in a period without literature, people would transfer knowledge through stories and myths, making them easier to remember. Therefore expanding the efficiencies of farming and societies.
It certainly makes a whole lot more sense than some bozo walking on water, performing miracles...etc.

Jesus was a REAL man,
and he was 'terribly' crucified 'innocently' to his death.
Just as the German killing of the Jews 'en mass' was terrible.

But as Jesus said unto 'his' Jewish People
when they used a Roman middle-man to crucify him to his death.
"Wait till my little brother Hitler gets yas!"

Jesus, alas - was innocent.
But both Jesus & Hitler were both 'un-orthodox' in their relation to Judaism.
Will a man who becomes a great warrior by his own accord,
be accepted by 'The System' compared to a man 'trained by the System' to be a great warrior also.
There can be only one.

As Religion (Middle-East)  'oppressed' Europe, was 'plagerised' (copied) by Asia and kept Africa in the 'dark' (continent).
Jesus - was the sacrifice of the human/individual masculinity of Europe.

This is why - soon!
You will see the Moslems do to the French
what the Germans did to the Jews.
..and why other 'circumstances' will arise towards
a Jewish Leader 'uniting' with his Moslem People.


K.I.S.S

Amadd wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:


And it's STILL crap. And always will be.

Jasin wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:


What makes you believe that ?




http://www.beholdthebeast.com/index.htm

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm    -     Islam is the perfect opposite of Christianity

All this rhetoric and still no consensus.Jesus The Christ (proper way to say it) existed. The Bible is real no matter how many times it is thrown across a room or is spat on or burned or?

Atheist, Agnostic, I believe these are terms made up by people who DIDN'T get out of Religion what they thought would happen so, they decided to attack the Bible, God and of course, Jesus The Christ so they would appear superior.
Charles Darwin did it, so, why not others huh?

It's a sad state of affairs and of course, the muslims are laughing at everyone who isn't a muslim. How can non muslims ever hope to defeat the moon god and his adherents if they are so divided. Chat on.