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Reply #90 - Aug 13^th, 2014 at 1:01pm

Raven wrote on Aug 13^th, 2014 at 12:41pm:

stryder wrote on Jun 11^th, 2014 at 10:00pm:

What I find interesting in reading the new testament, the gospels is the fact that the authors omitted nearly 30 years of jesus' life, only the gospels of matthew and luke thought to include the birth of jesus and one short story of his childhood, while the gospels of mark and john didnt care about including it, but next to that we know nothing of jesus' upbringing, his teenage years or even what happened to him in his 20s ??? why is that, given the rapture over this man ????

Raven thinks the passage of time would have been a factor. The earliest gospel, Mark, was written some 40 odd years after his crucifixion. So it would be unlikely they would have found anyone who grew up with him.

Interestingly a group in Kashmir claim that 2000 years ago a boy travelled there from Judea with his family and learnt Buddhism off the monks, then returned home after a number of years. Could the Nazarene's preaching's of love thy enemy and turn the other cheek be inspired by Buddhist teachings?

It all fits.

Jesus was prolly a Buddhist. Tongue

Matthew 22:35
Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.

....but it was only one of Jesus parables.
Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Jesus was a Jewish man, and a Torah [law] teacher.

"Thou shalt do no murder,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother."
Matthew 19:16-19

The above [Matthew 19:16-19] were quoted by Jesus, directly from the book(s) of the law, the Torah,
Exodus 20:12-16
Deuteronomy 5:16-20

And including,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
From, Leviticus 19:18

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ? Reply #91 - Aug 13^th, 2014 at 1:04pm He was just a man, and that's what worries me about his Second Coming ... 'Night of the Living Dead' .... great movie.
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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981 Around	Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ? Reply #92 - Aug 13^th, 2014 at 1:41pm Its surprising that none of the writings of the Nazarene have been found. He was a very educated man and would have recorded his own ministry. After the crucifixion surely his followers would have kept his writings safe. What could have happened to them?
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Reply #93 - Aug 13^th, 2014 at 8:36pm

Raven wrote on Aug 13^th, 2014 at 1:41pm:

Its surprising that none of the writings of the Nazarene have been found. He was a very educated man and would have recorded his own ministry. After the crucifixion surely his followers would have kept his writings safe. What could have happened to them?

Not even a painting of him - nothing.

That's because it was all made up.

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Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ?
Reply #95 - Aug 13^th, 2014 at 10:48pm

Yep, I've had this argument over and over as well. You'll find that he never existed as a real person and was just (not merely, but very very importantly) a vehicle to convey the message of astrology (as it was termed).
Jesus was the centre of attention being the sun and stories were created to bring forth knowledge to the masses.

Why the stories? Because that's the way that knowledge was primarily transferred in all ancient societies.
As is always, the story was bastardised by the power hungry.
Modern religion is not to be respected in the least.

Jesus never existed as an actual person. Believe me on that one OK?

..or even better, look it up for yourself.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21722 A cat with a view	Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ? Reply #96 - Aug 13^th, 2014 at 11:00pm Whatever.
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Reply #97 - Aug 13^th, 2014 at 11:27pm

Whatever is not a rational reply.

Get it through your thick head numb nuts. Jesus (in your depiction) never existed.

Do you hear me right and are you going to provide some sort of proof?

Like the dickbrain who started this thread and provided only two false options. What, are we voting for a frikin' republic on Howard's watch or something?

You nice people really need to come up with something more rational.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21722 A cat with a view	Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ? Reply #98 - Aug 14^th, 2014 at 12:03am Whatever. I have not lived your life. I have not walked your path.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ? Reply #99 - Aug 14^th, 2014 at 12:09am ..and not a thought to think?
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ? Reply #100 - Aug 14^th, 2014 at 1:32am About other people Yadda. Do you ever think that they might exist bigger, better and more worthy than you? Or do you never think that way?
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Reply #101 - Aug 14^th, 2014 at 7:37am

Amadd wrote on Aug 14^th, 2014 at 1:32am:

About other people Yadda. Do you ever think that they might exist bigger, better and more worthy than you?

Amadd,

There is barely a day that goes by, that i am not reminded by my betters, of how foolish and flawed and weak and puny i am.

By sensible people.

People like yourself.

Normal people.

Amadd,

It is normal people [the wisdom of the 'majority', the mob] who have brought us [mankind] to where we are today.

And how is that going for us ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95619 Gender:	Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ? Reply #102 - Aug 14^th, 2014 at 9:11am We’re not your betters, Y. We’re just as foolish as you are. Gud is great!
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Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ?
Reply #103 - Aug 14^th, 2014 at 12:03pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 14^th, 2014 at 7:37am:

Amadd wrote on Aug 14^th, 2014 at 1:32am:

About other people Yadda. Do you ever think that they might exist bigger, better and more worthy than you?

Amadd,

There is barely a day that goes by, that i am not reminded by my betters, of how foolish and flawed and weak and puny i am.

By sensible people.

People like yourself.

Normal people.

Amadd,

It is normal people [the wisdom of the 'majority', the mob] who have brought us [mankind] to where we are today.

And how is that going for us ?

Yes Yadda, we are all weak and puny in the grand scheme of things, but the human race as a whole is a pretty formidable force as a whole on this planet, despite the problems we face.

A little more truth wouldn't go astray.

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Re: Was Jesus the son of god or just a human ?
Reply #104 - Aug 15^th, 2014 at 12:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2014 at 8:36pm:

Raven wrote on Aug 13^th, 2014 at 1:41pm:

Its surprising that none of the writings of the Nazarene have been found. He was a very educated man and would have recorded his own ministry. After the crucifixion surely his followers would have kept his writings safe. What could have happened to them?

Not even a painting of him - nothing.

That's because it was all made up.

The son of god bit, was certainly made up. As for the lack of paintings, he was, according to the the stories, just a carpenter. He wouldn't have had the money or fame to have a painting done of himself (and because he wasn't any one special, there'd be no reason for an artist to do a freebie)

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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