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Reply #16 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:14am

Because they are the ones who need to be taught a lesson.

I think our society is way too prudish. It is silly to automatically associate nudity with sexuality or offense. The continental Europeans handle it much better. If you want to flop both of them out to give the kid a choice, everyone else should get over it and stop being so judgemental. It doesn't make you a slut.

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Reply #17 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:21am

... wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:45am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

Asking for trouble? I'm assuming it's about rape, which when perpetrated by strangers is rarely about sexual attraction.

So tell me why 80% of rapes are against women under 30? (ie while they are still attractive)

Studies show that provocative clothing does not increase the chances of rape.

The majority of rape (70-80%) is committed by people the rapists knows, not some random stranger from the street. This includes, friends, family etc.

The two largest age groups of women that get sexually assaulted are 10-14 and 15-19.

Studies show that sexual satisfaction is in the minority in terms of motivations for rape, with power and anger being the biggest contenders.

What evidence do you have for an alternative position?

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Reply #18 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:24am

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

Because they are the ones who need to be taught a lesson.

I think our society is way too prudish. It is silly to automatically associate nudity with sexuality or offense. The continental Europeans handle it much better. If you want to flop both of them out to give the kid a choice, everyone else should get over it and stop being so judgemental. It doesn't make you a slut.

This is another point of contention I have. Most people view promiscuity by females to be far worse than promiscuity by males.

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Reply #19 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:09am

olde.sault wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:32am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:52am:

nothing wrong with breast feeding, stop being such a prude. It's a tit for christ sake.

Right, "nothing wrong with breastfeeding"

Quote my words saying that there was something wrong with breastfeeding. . .

Women who openly feed their babies are exhibitionists.

No wonder we women are getting less and less respect from the opposite gender.

Fortunately, I have always been treated with respect. That's because I have worn skirts that well-covered my pants and didn't have tits peering from necklines!

If one behaves and dresses slovenly one attracts disrespect.

Gawd Olde Sour Puss, yours are probably around your knees now so any Bub would get neck strain trying to get a feed

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Reply #20 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:30am

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Well this is where the conflicting confusion is....in another thread, they talk about young underage teens, wearing bikinis and that they are asking for trouble etc blah blah blah.

Asking for trouble? I'm assuming it's about rape, which when perpetrated by strangers is rarely about sexual attraction.

Sophia wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

So how do we differentiate what is offensive and what is not?

Sexual behaviour is probably a safe line.

Seriously? You're taken in by that nonsense?

" ... rarely about sexual attraction ... "

Come on, you don't really believe that.

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Reply #22 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:50am

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

... wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:45am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

Asking for trouble? I'm assuming it's about rape, which when perpetrated by strangers is rarely about sexual attraction.

So tell me why 80% of rapes are against women under 30? (ie while they are still attractive)

Studies show that provocative clothing does not increase the chances of rape.

The majority of rape (70-80%) is committed by people the rapists knows, not some random stranger from the street. This includes, friends, family etc.

The two largest age groups of women that get sexually assaulted are 10-14 and 15-19.

Studies show that sexual satisfaction is in the minority in terms of motivations for rape, with power and anger being the biggest contenders.

What evidence do you have for an alternative position?

Oh is that how it works?

You make stupid, counter-intuitive statement and back it up with barely, if-at-all relevant surrogate markers and it's up to me to disprove it?

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Reply #23 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:51am

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

Because they are the ones who need to be taught a lesson.

I think our society is way too prudish. It is silly to automatically associate nudity with sexuality or offense. The continental Europeans handle it much better. If you want to flop both of them out to give the kid a choice, everyone else should get over it and stop being so judgemental. It doesn't make you a slut.

This is another point of contention I have. Most people view promiscuity by females to be far worse than promiscuity by males.

So? It makes perfect sense in an evolutionary context.

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Reply #24 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 12:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:30am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Well this is where the conflicting confusion is....in another thread, they talk about young underage teens, wearing bikinis and that they are asking for trouble etc blah blah blah.

Asking for trouble? I'm assuming it's about rape, which when perpetrated by strangers is rarely about sexual attraction.

Sophia wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

So how do we differentiate what is offensive and what is not?

Sexual behaviour is probably a safe line.

Seriously? You're taken in by that nonsense?

" ... rarely about sexual attraction ... "

Come on, you don't really believe that.

Your position is backed by what exactly, what you feel is correct?

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Reply #25 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 12:02pm

... wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

Because they are the ones who need to be taught a lesson.

I think our society is way too prudish. It is silly to automatically associate nudity with sexuality or offense. The continental Europeans handle it much better. If you want to flop both of them out to give the kid a choice, everyone else should get over it and stop being so judgemental. It doesn't make you a slut.

This is another point of contention I have. Most people view promiscuity by females to be far worse than promiscuity by males.

So? It makes perfect sense in an evolutionary context.

That does not mean it is rational or desirable for society. It makes sense we like fat and sugar, but that does not mean we should eat as much as we want.

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Reply #26 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 12:06pm

... wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

... wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:45am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

Asking for trouble? I'm assuming it's about rape, which when perpetrated by strangers is rarely about sexual attraction.

So tell me why 80% of rapes are against women under 30? (ie while they are still attractive)

Studies show that provocative clothing does not increase the chances of rape.

The majority of rape (70-80%) is committed by people the rapists knows, not some random stranger from the street. This includes, friends, family etc.

The two largest age groups of women that get sexually assaulted are 10-14 and 15-19.

Studies show that sexual satisfaction is in the minority in terms of motivations for rape, with power and anger being the biggest contenders.

What evidence do you have for an alternative position?

Oh is that how it works?

You make stupid, counter-intuitive statement and back it up with barely, if-at-all relevant surrogate markers and it's up to me to disprove it?

I provided some evidence for my position, you have provided virtually none for yours.

The null hypothesis (default position between two things) is dressing provocatively has no impact on sexual assault, for you to claim otherwise means you need evidence.

Just because you find it intuitive isn't evidence.

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Reply #27 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:11pm

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:39am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:30am:

I'm talking about breast feeding, not stipping off in public

I think to many people make to big a deal out of it ...

Frankly people are prudish for no good reason. I don't even care if people wanted walk around naked, as if the naked body is somehow naturally offensive.

agree

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #28 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:13pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Vic wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

Gawd Olde Sour Puss, yours are probably around your knees now so any Bub would get neck strain trying to get a feed

Lol!!! It could be a case of the green eyed monster.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-73TGcA7rECs/Ts-bVrfbISI/AAAAAAAABEo/SnMj3_dHRow/s1600/...

now that is wrong

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #29 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:15pm

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 11:30am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Well this is where the conflicting confusion is....in another thread, they talk about young underage teens, wearing bikinis and that they are asking for trouble etc blah blah blah.

Asking for trouble? I'm assuming it's about rape, which when perpetrated by strangers is rarely about sexual attraction.

Sophia wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

So how do we differentiate what is offensive and what is not?

Sexual behaviour is probably a safe line.

Seriously? You're taken in by that nonsense?

" ... rarely about sexual attraction ... "

Come on, you don't really believe that.

Your position is backed by what exactly, what you feel is correct?

I asked you a question - " You're taken in by that nonsense?"

Do you seriously believe what you said?

If so, what are you basing that assumption on?

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