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Jun 8^th, 2014 at 1:24am

Apparently, I am unable to write on "Multiculturalism" forum.
Because I quoted this "porn"(as ian and Ausdie continue to insist) as pedophilia, which it is. And that is all I said.
First of all, banning for saying the truth is definitely bending over any rationality. Secondly, something really strikes me here: Aussie, and his cothinkers, are ready to sweep all facts under the rug, accuse and threaten, all in favour of one particular religion. So, life of those girls is not as important? This is sick, I for one feel less and less comfortable living in a world filled with pigs who think ancient culture is more important than the child's life? Don't you think you, not those who post some caricatures, should be holding a responsibility?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38527 Gender:	Re: Censoring on forum detected Reply #1 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:06am I object to that image per se, and have made the point that, so far as I am concerned, its relevance or otherwise to Islam is totally remote from the fact that this site is hosting an image in clear breach of the child pornography material provisions of the C'wealth Criminal Code.
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Reply #2 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:21am

Torpedo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 1:24am:

Don't you think you, not those who post some caricatures, should be holding a responsibility?

how about a jihad???... death is the only thing that will bring this to an end...and all those who see evil in a cartoon will be justified..

can you tell me how do we help a child in a cartoon?????..... I could have missed the thread on that?..

this is a drawing..another man drew a pic of Muhammad.. and is still looking over his shoulder years later...do you approve of that??? do you think that is the answer to preventing child porn as you call this?????.....

do you think hiding the truth as some see it.. is the way to go????...

I saw this as an attack on Islam.... and I agree this part of their culture is abnormal..and has no place in this country..

maybe we shouldnt talk about that either.

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Reply #3 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:55am

Apart from Aussie I have had no real issues with censorship but I gotta say, I have never seen a forum so full of posters who hint frantically where moderation should occur and for contrary viewpoints to be censored.

it is the same mindset that calls for cartoonists to be killed. It truly is sad and pathetic.

Many of you would be well suited to running totalitarian states. No need to argue against a point if you can just ban the point or better yet the person making it.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Censoring on forum detected Reply #4 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:57am I never quoted those caricatures as porn, also my opposition to them was and is not based on religion. Get a grip Torpedo.
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Reply #5 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 10:02am

Datalife wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:55am:

Apart from Aussie I have had no real issues with censorship but I gotta say, I have never seen a forum so full of posters who hint frantically where moderation should occur and for contrary viewpoints to be censored.

it is the same mindset that calls for cartoonists to be killed. It truly is sad and pathetic.

Many of you would be well suited to running totalitarian states. No need to argue against a point if you can just ban the point or better yet the person making it.

what point do you think was being made by posting those caricatures? Im interested.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103110 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Censoring on forum detected Reply #6 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 10:52am Aussie once got me to delete this photo which was on Ozpolitic's list of forum attachments: Aussie can find offense even with a girl sitting on a couch fully clothed.
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Reply #7 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 11:35am

ian wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

Datalife wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:55am:

Apart from Aussie I have had no real issues with censorship but I gotta say, I have never seen a forum so full of posters who hint frantically where moderation should occur and for contrary viewpoints to be censored.

it is the same mindset that calls for cartoonists to be killed. It truly is sad and pathetic.

Many of you would be well suited to running totalitarian states. No need to argue against a point if you can just ban the point or better yet the person making it.

what point do you think was being made by posting those caricatures? Im interested.

Take is as a comment on softcocks who would prefer a forum where everyone agrees with each other.

Nothing like some mutually masturbating self congratulation and ego preening groupthink to endorse and validate your own ideas and prejudices safe from contrary opinion and dissenting ideas.

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Reply #8 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 11:41am

Datalife wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

ian wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

Datalife wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:55am:

Apart from Aussie I have had no real issues with censorship but I gotta say, I have never seen a forum so full of posters who hint frantically where moderation should occur and for contrary viewpoints to be censored.

it is the same mindset that calls for cartoonists to be killed. It truly is sad and pathetic.

Many of you would be well suited to running totalitarian states. No need to argue against a point if you can just ban the point or better yet the person making it.

what point do you think was being made by posting those caricatures? Im interested.

Take is as a comment on softcocks who would prefer a forum where everyone agrees with each other.

Nothing like some mutually masturbating self congratulation and ego preening groupthink to endorse and validate your own ideas and prejudices safe from contrary opinion and dissenting ideas.

Was posting deliberately offensive caricatures the only way to make that point do you think? Isnt the point of this forum about debate?

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Reply #9 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 11:46am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

Aussie once got me to delete this photo which was on Ozpolitic's list of forum attachments:

If it titillated you Bobby - then it's porn.

Torpedo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 1:24am:

Aussie, and his cothinkers, are ready to sweep all facts under the rug, accuse and threaten, all in favour of one particular religion. So, life of those girls is not as important? This is sick, I for one feel less and less comfortable living in a world filled with pigs who think ancient culture is more important than the child's life? Don't you think you, not those who post some caricatures, should be holding a responsibility?

Those cartoons in Extremism aren't exactly anti-paedophilia. Cartoons of that genre promote paedophilia if anything.

Some of you are very hung up about Muslims and tar them all with the same brush. Multiculturalism is a fact of life and it's not going to go away, but in the meantime regardless of what religion you are there are laws here to protect our children.

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Reply #10 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 12:13pm

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:21am:

Torpedo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 1:24am:

Don't you think you, not those who post some caricatures, should be holding a responsibility?

how about a jihad???... death is the only thing that will bring this to an end...and all those who see evil in a cartoon will be justified..

can you tell me how do we help a child in a cartoon?????..... I could have missed the thread on that?..

this is a drawing..another man drew a pic of Muhammad.. and is still looking over his shoulder years later...do you approve of that??? do you think that is the answer to preventing child porn as you call this?????.....

do you think hiding the truth as some see it.. is the way to go????...

I saw this as an attack on Islam.... and I agree this part of their culture is abnormal..and has no place in this country..

maybe we shouldnt talk about that either.

Do you agree that banning me from writing on a certain forum, because I expressed what I think of this cartoon is a justice???
WTF is wrong with everyone.
And how do YOU suggest to help a girl, a muslim girl born to a moronic culture, who doesn't really have a choice? What do you think it does to her when we silently watch FGM being performed?
Or them being married at 13??? Ahhh, in this case we just say: but but but, we don't have the budget to cover for this sh!t, we are running in debt...
So, an opinion about certain cartoon caricature (I still don't see how it is considered a porn, when it is clearly an illustration of muhammad and his wife!!!) is ought to be banned! Am I correct?!

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Reply #11 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 12:25pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

I object to that image per se, and have made the point that,

And that is why you restricted my opinion?
Exactly what have I said for you to make such move?
Aussie wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

so far as I am concerned, its relevance or otherwise to Islam is totally remote from the fact that this site is hosting an image in clear breach of the child pornography material provisions of the C'wealth Criminal Code.

Well, in this case should we restrict the whole material of islam, where it is so widely followed?
Check out TrueColours view on age limits for marriage, and tell me why he is not banned from expressing his opinion?

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Reply #12 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 12:26pm

ian wrote on Jun 12^th, 1974 at 7:46am:

[quote]Was posting deliberately offensive caricatures the only way to make that point do you think? Isnt the point of this forum about debate?

It inspired debate did it not? I find many things offensive but I dont seek to censor discussion of them nor do I seek to censor other posters because I disagree with them or dont like them.

And you need to understand somepeople deliberately seek offence and to be offended precisely so that they can censor...or in other instances be a back seat mod and further an agenda of destabilisation.

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Torpedo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 867 Sydney Gender:	Re: Censoring on forum detected Reply #13 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 12:30pm So, this image is ok, so long we don't see what happens later, right!??? Oh no, this is not a representation of any culture, lets pretend anyway
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Reply #14 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 12:32pm

mantra wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 11:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

Aussie once got me to delete this photo which was on Ozpolitic's list of forum attachments:

If it titillated you Bobby - then it's porn.

Torpedo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 1:24am:

Aussie, and his cothinkers, are ready to sweep all facts under the rug, accuse and threaten, all in favour of one particular religion. So, life of those girls is not as important? This is sick, I for one feel less and less comfortable living in a world filled with pigs who think ancient culture is more important than the child's life? Don't you think you, not those who post some caricatures, should be holding a responsibility?

Those cartoons in Extremism aren't exactly anti-paedophilia. Cartoons of that genre promote paedophilia if anything.

Some of you are very hung up about Muslims and tar them all with the same brush. Multiculturalism is a fact of life and it's not going to go away, but in the meantime regardless of what religion you are there are laws here to protect our children.

And us being quite about it, and killing and banning people for telling the truth, is also promoting many forms of evil

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