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Reply #90 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:58am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

There is no doubt that Aussie is a censor with a very low threshold.

He won't even allow a bikini girl on his forum.

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I believe I have explained Bobby. I work on the basis that it is better to nip things in the bud very early. If I give an inch, there are many around here who will take slow but incremental steps, and I am not willing to allow that to happen.

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Reply #92 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:19am

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

Despite the rubbish Aussie spits out, having any of these cartoons on your computer will not result in your arrest at all, by anyone, ever.

This is one of those situations where it might technically meet a definition, but the police are unlikely to arrest anyone because the chance of conviction is so low. Trying to convince a jury that it is pronographic and that someone should be sanctioned for having such an image is unlikely to succeed.

Wanna bet.

Click here.

Big difference between what is clearly pornographic and an entirely clothed cartoon, at least in terms of convincing people.

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Reply #93 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:21am

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:30am:

I'm not even in the country right now, but even if I were I wouldn't invite trouble. Like I said, I find it hard to believe it would be prosecuted because I doubt a jury would convict, at least on that evidence alone.

It's a challenge for stupid people. There is nothing at all to gain from it.

No, you said you wouldnt be arrested. I say you would, next time you come back through customs make sure you have those caricatures on your laptop HD then draw the officers attention to it.

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Reply #94 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:23am

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

Despite the rubbish Aussie spits out, having any of these cartoons on your computer will not result in your arrest at all, by anyone, ever.

This is one of those situations where it might technically meet a definition, but the police are unlikely to arrest anyone because the chance of conviction is so low. Trying to convince a jury that it is pronographic and that someone should be sanctioned for having such an image is unlikely to succeed.

Wanna bet.

Click here.

Big difference between what is clearly pornographic and an entirely clothed cartoon, at least in terms of convincing people.

You need to read the relevant act again, I can assure you with a fervent prosecutor you wouldnt have a hope of not receiving a custodial sentence. what it hinges on really is whether you would be arrested. You would.

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Reply #95 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:24am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

mantra wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:34am:

There was no nipple.
If women want to see pics of budgie smuggling blokes then that's their business.

I don't care whether there's a nipple showing or not. It wasn't a bad photo. I was offering an explanation as to why it might have been objected to.

Aussie seems pretty tolerant of most opinions - just not personal abuse. I agree with him on that. There's nothing worse than a member following you around the forum and the only contribution they make is a personal attack.

Except that I supported Aussie's re-reinstatement as a Global moderator.

Bettee to set the bar high than low. Theres plenty of other sites where you can post pictures of bikini chicks.

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Reply #96 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:25am

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

Despite the rubbish Aussie spits out, having any of these cartoons on your computer will not result in your arrest at all, by anyone, ever.

This is one of those situations where it might technically meet a definition, but the police are unlikely to arrest anyone because the chance of conviction is so low. Trying to convince a jury that it is pronographic and that someone should be sanctioned for having such an image is unlikely to succeed.

Wanna bet.

Click here.

this is a completely different scenario, and if I was the judge, I would still put them behind bars.
The pic with Mohammad isn't a promotion of child pornography, the biggest crime here is a mockery on Islam, and is not unjustifiable, since it really DID take place. It's not depicting any acts, or pleasure associated with it, I am personally disgusted by the old man, nothing else comes to mind, ffs. It might be offensive to religious sensitives, but unfortunately doesn't take away the fact of it Lips Sealed

The story with Simpsons is all contrary to this, and that is definitely qualifying as heavy crime.

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Reply #97 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:39am

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

Despite the rubbish Aussie spits out, having any of these cartoons on your computer will not result in your arrest at all, by anyone, ever.

This is one of those situations where it might technically meet a definition, but the police are unlikely to arrest anyone because the chance of conviction is so low. Trying to convince a jury that it is pronographic and that someone should be sanctioned for having such an image is unlikely to succeed.

Wanna bet.

Click here.

Big difference between what is clearly pornographic and an entirely clothed cartoon, at least in terms of convincing people.

You need to read the relevant act again, I can assure you with a fervent prosecutor you wouldnt have a hope of not receiving a custodial sentence. what it hinges on really is whether you would be arrested. You would.

Well considering even for the explicit Simpsons one you mentioned there was no custodial sentence, I find that difficult to believe. Contrary to what you say, police do use discretion at times. I can imagine that many of them wouldn't even think it was considered porngraphy, so unless they were specifically looking for it, it may well be ignored.

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Reply #98 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:42am

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:30am:

I'm not even in the country right now, but even if I were I wouldn't invite trouble. Like I said, I find it hard to believe it would be prosecuted because I doubt a jury would convict, at least on that evidence alone.

It's a challenge for stupid people. There is nothing at all to gain from it.

No, you said you wouldnt be arrested. I say you would, next time you come back through customs make sure you have those caricatures on your laptop HD then draw the officers attention to it.

I'm not an idiot, I have no desire to ever make my customs experience any harder than it needs to be. I'm not convinced I would be arrested, but I have no desire to find out for sure.

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Reply #99 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:43am

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

mantra wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:34am:

There was no nipple.
If women want to see pics of budgie smuggling blokes then that's their business.

I don't care whether there's a nipple showing or not. It wasn't a bad photo. I was offering an explanation as to why it might have been objected to.

Aussie seems pretty tolerant of most opinions - just not personal abuse. I agree with him on that. There's nothing worse than a member following you around the forum and the only contribution they make is a personal attack.

Except that I supported Aussie's re-reinstatement as a Global moderator.

Bettee to set the bar high than low. Theres plenty of other sites where you can post pictures of bikini chicks.

Don't see the value it in, but as member run board, he can set the bar wherever he wants.

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Reply #100 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 2:21pm

OK. Here's a question.

Would you show that cartoon to your young child or grandchild and laugh about it?

I definitely would NOT neither show it nor laugh about it. It is not amusing. Period!

However, it is not porn to an adult. It is extremely Bad Taste.

Many things are in Bad Taste ...... we all have to realise that OUR ideas are not 100% pure, other people do live on this planet and they, too, deserve a hearing without abuse. Wink

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Reply #101 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 2:25pm

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 8^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

Despite the rubbish Aussie spits out, having any of these cartoons on your computer will not result in your arrest at all, by anyone, ever.

This is one of those situations where it might technically meet a definition, but the police are unlikely to arrest anyone because the chance of conviction is so low. Trying to convince a jury that it is pronographic and that someone should be sanctioned for having such an image is unlikely to succeed.

Wanna bet.

Click here.

Big difference between what is clearly pornographic and an entirely clothed cartoon, at least in terms of convincing people.

It is clearly child pornography material. Read:

Quote:

Section 473.1

"child pornography material" means:

(a) material that depicts a person, or a representation of a person, who is, or appears to be, under 18 years of age and who:

(i) is engaged in, or appears to be engaged in, a sexual pose or sexual activity (whether or not in the presence of other persons); or

(ii) is in the presence of a person who is engaged in, or appears to be engaged in, a sexual pose or sexual activity;

and does this in a way that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, offensive; or

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Reply #102 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 2:36pm

Neferti wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 2:21pm:

OK. Here's a question.

Would you show that cartoon to your young child or grandchild and laugh about it?

I definitely would NOT neither show it nor laugh about it. It is not amusing. Period!

I have stated my point/objection. Why don't you?
However, it is not porn to an adult. It is extremely Bad Taste.

Many things are in Bad Taste ...... we all have to realise that OUR ideas are not 100% pure, other people do live on this planet and they, too, deserve a hearing without abuse. Wink

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Reply #103 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 6:30pm

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

mantra wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 10:34am:

There was no nipple.
If women want to see pics of budgie smuggling blokes then that's their business.

I don't care whether there's a nipple showing or not. It wasn't a bad photo. I was offering an explanation as to why it might have been objected to.

Aussie seems pretty tolerant of most opinions - just not personal abuse. I agree with him on that. There's nothing worse than a member following you around the forum and the only contribution they make is a personal attack.

Except that I supported Aussie's re-reinstatement as a Global moderator.

Bettee to set the bar high than low. Theres plenty of other sites where you can post pictures of bikini chicks.

I only posted the said picture of a girl in a bikini
to verify the prudish limits of Aussie.
The bar was set very low.

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