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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #45 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 4:45pm

Raven wrote on Sep 10^th, 2014 at 5:57pm:

Considering no major religion was ever started by those with light (ie white) skin it should come as no surprise that the importance of religion is strongly correlated with dark skin.

Are you saying Islam is not a major religion, then perhaps it is a major delusion?

There are many verses that say $Profit $Mo was white-
sunnah.com/search/?q=whiteness+thigh

I call him $Profit $Mo because of this verse-
quran.com/8/41

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #46 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 4:53pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 4:45pm:

Are you saying Islam is not a major religion, then perhaps it is a major delusion?

He allegedly was born and lived in the middle east? How white could he have been?

Even assuming writings about him were correct, or that he ever physically existed as depicted in writings.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

a) because they have been around since before pre-history and still are, and flourishing

ok,

a) how do you know that religion has been around since pre-history? By definition that would be pretty much impossible to prove.

b) just because something is flourishing and has been around for a long time is not validation. You could be talking about, I dunno, war. Or racism. Or slavery.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #47 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:01pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 4:45pm:

Are you saying Islam is not a major religion, then perhaps it is a major delusion?

He allegedly was born and lived in the middle east? How white could he have been?

Even assuming writings about him were correct, or that he ever physically existed as depicted in writings.

$Profit $Mo was white skinned, the Islamic texts are clear on this fact.

He was also a horny fat dwarf.

Of course leftists will make $Profit $Mo out to be dark skinned so they can hurl the racist slur at critics of Islam, bad luck on that one.

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #48 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:13pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:01pm:

$Profit $Mo was white skinned, the Islamic texts are clear on this fact.

Why would you believe them if there is no evidence to support it?

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:01pm:

dark skinned so they can hurl the racist slur at critics of Islam, bad luck on that one

Dark skinned isn't a race. Bad luck on that one.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #49 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:28pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:13pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:01pm:

$Profit $Mo was white skinned, the Islamic texts are clear on this fact.

Why would you believe them if there is no evidence to support it?
What evidence do you have that contradicts the sahih ahadith?
Do you know what a sahih hadith is?
Why would we believe your bullcrap over what Islamic texts say?

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:01pm:

dark skinned so they can hurl the racist slur at critics of Islam, bad luck on that one

Dark skinned isn't a race. Bad luck on that one.
Muslim or Islam is not a race either, you cannot be phobic of an ideology one day lefties will wake up to that fallacy.

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #50 - Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:42pm

Baron, when are talking points like this, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim.Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:28pm:

Muslim or Islam is not a race either, you cannot be phobic of an ideology one day lefties will wake up to that fallacy.

You can be phobic of anything. Literally anything.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:28pm:

Do you know what a sahih hadith is?

Yup. Based on available evidence they were passed down orally for over 200 years before being collected and written down, and without any other to corroborate what is in them they are a poor source of historical information.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #51 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 4:22pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 4:45pm:

Raven wrote on Sep 10^th, 2014 at 5:57pm:

Considering no major religion was ever started by those with light (ie white) skin it should come as no surprise that the importance of religion is strongly correlated with dark skin.

Are you saying Islam is not a major religion, then perhaps it is a major delusion?

There are many verses that say $Profit $Mo was white-
sunnah.com/search/?q=whiteness+thigh

I call him $Profit $Mo because of this verse-
quran.com/8/41

And the Nazarene was always portrayed as white with blue eyes. But he wasn't.

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #52 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 4:24pm

stryder wrote on Nov 10^th, 2014 at 10:33pm:

Raven wrote on Sep 10^th, 2014 at 5:57pm:

... wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

xiena wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

... wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 5:14pm:

Yep, could be.

There's also another correlation that you may not have noticed, which could be a factor. By putting our heads together, we might just get to the bottom of this.

I don't think so. Zimbabwe and Namibia have higher literacy rates than Turkey, Equador, Mexico and even China. Keep going. Eventually you'll get the hang of it.

So what? You were talking about the "most educated countries" which is related to literacy, but it's not the same thing. Even so, finding 2 black countries that have higher literacy than a couple of other non-black countries isn't much of a finding.

What is it about noticing patterns that troubles you? Further, if you don't want other people to notice them, don't bring them to the discussion.

But since we're noticing - I notice that the importance of religion is strongly correlated with dark skin. As a general rule, the darker the skin, the more important religion is.

Why do you mock and sneer at the culture and beliefs of all the worlds tinted peoples? Sounds like the new face of white supremacy.

Considering no major religion was ever started by those with light (ie white) skin it should come as no surprise that the importance of religion is strongly correlated with dark skin.

hmmmmm, so where does religion stand with these dark skin people in the future as the white race is in decline.

Basically where it does now. Majority of Jews and Muslims are Semites and the majority of Christians no longer reside in white western countries

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #53 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 4:25pm

Raven wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 4:45pm:

[quote author=Raven link=1402576898/41#41 date=1410335863]

Considering no major religion was ever started by those with light (ie white) skin it should come as no surprise that the importance of religion is strongly correlated with dark skin.

Are you saying Islam is not a major religion, then perhaps it is a major delusion?

More likely then not, along with every other religion.

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #55 - Nov 25^th, 2014 at 2:44pm

I would like to suggest the poll is biased.
A simple Yes or No answer would be better because I cannot accept either alternative that is provided.
Science has shown no sign of coming close to know all things, particularly things outside its scope – like spirituality. True science is limited to the universe it studies and has no tools to observe what may be outside that universe.
I might agree that religion is becoming redundant because of affluence but that is dependent on continuing affluence which historically is likely to have a resurgance.
Therefore the poll, by trying to limit the answers in a narrow way is only succeeding in showing the bias of the person who proposed the poll.

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #56 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:54pm

Lorenzo wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

Science has shown no sign of coming close to know all things, particularly things outside its scope – like spirituality.

Science studies things through testing and observation.

How exactly would you begin to analyse things which are "like spirituality" or "may be outside of the universe". If you cannot test or observe such things, then I wonder what value they have other than as a thought experiment.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #57 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:09pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:54pm:

Lorenzo wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

Science has shown no sign of coming close to know all things, particularly things outside its scope – like spirituality.

Science studies things through testing and observation.

How exactly would you begin to analyse things which are "like spirituality" or "may be outside of the universe". If you cannot test or observe such things, then I wonder what value they have other than as a thought experiment.

I think the closest we could come is observing and identifying neural processes that allow us to determine things like spirituality

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Will God and religion become redundant ? Reply #58 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:37pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:09pm: I think the closest we could come is observing and identifying neural processes that allow us to determine things like spirituality Neural Processors I'm not sure are what people have in mind when most people say spirituality.
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Re: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Reply #59 - Nov 27^th, 2014 at 8:53am

Stratos wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:09pm:

I think the closest we could come is observing and identifying neural processes that allow us to determine things like spirituality

Neural Processors I'm not sure are what people have in mind when most people say spirituality.

True but we were talking about science exploring spirituality.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Question: Will God and religion become redundant ?
Yes, as science expands in knowledge 9 (60.0%) No, God will always be believed by the majority. 6 (40.0%) Total votes: 15 « Last Modified by: stryder on: Jun 12^th, 2014 at 10:46pm »