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Re: Christian Honour Killing
Reply #30 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:44am

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 2:14pm:

More Christian, so-called "Honour Killings":

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Christian “honour” killings are on the rise and it’s the men who are to blame yet again.
Posted on 28 September 2012 by harebell

More killings by insecure, violent, deranged, religious men.

First a family slain by a father who couldn’t take it that someone he did not vote for might remain president. If he was worried then why didn’t he just top himself? That would have been too easy and not played to his vanity; he decided that the future was too gloomy for his boys and wife too so it would be up to the paterfamilias to take action.

Then in Canada another christian idiot decides that his imaginary friend has informed him his girlfriend is pregnant and is planning an abortion; so he beats her to death and stabs bible pages to her chest. Oh and he then blames his imaginary friend for letting him do it…. He must have forgotten the nuanced and sophisticated argumentation that excuses god from actually doing stuff.

Religious expression allows folk to make excuses for any action because it, by necessity precludes any requirement for the practitioner to remain in reality. That’s why it is inherently dangerous.

[http://harebell.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/christian-honour-killings-are-on-the-rise-and-its-the-men-who-are-to-blame-yet-again/]

So, where is the outrage from the apologists for Christianity? You know, the ones who tell us only Muslims commit so-called "honour killings"?

Funny how they are silent, isn't it? Grin

That's because Christians don't do honor killings. Say it till your black and blue in the face, it won't change the fact. If someone called themselves a Christian and did then they would negate the ability to call themselves a Christian. Do try and understand the Christian doctrine before blurting out nonsense.

Islam on the other hand .... Grin

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95921 Gender:	Re: Christian Honour Killings Reply #31 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 1:22am Now that stands to reason. If a Christian kills his women, it turns him into a Muslim. Not that a Christian would do that sort of thing in the first place, just saying. Good point, Matty.
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Re: Christian Honour Killing
Reply #32 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:07am

Mattywisk wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:44am:

That's because Christians don't do honor killings. Say it till your black and blue in the face, it won't change the fact. If someone called themselves a Christian and did then they would negate the ability to call themselves a Christian. Do try and understand the Christian doctrine before blurting out nonsense.

My, how convenient.

Problem is, the perpetrators believe they are Christians. They've been raised as Christians and they continue to believe they are Christians after the fact. So, who are I to disbelieve them? Who are you to judge them? Who set you up as the supreme arbiter of who is or isn't a Christian? What is your authority to do so? Who gave it to you? Grin

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Re: Christian Honour Killings
Reply #33 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:18am

Datalife wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 5:40pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 5:22pm:

So, do you condemn Christianity's so-called "Honour" Killings, DL or will we put you down as another apologist? Grin

I am an equal opportunity hater, I condemn all acts of buggerbuggery committed in the name of sky pixies. You won't see distractions, diversions, red herrings or fingers pointing the other way from me.

Yet you didn't do it until I prodded you DL. Interesting that. You're like the rest, very ready to condemn Muslims for any imagined slight yet remain silent when it's Christians. I wonder why?

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You've often asked that separate, comparable threads be created about the antics of Christians and here is one and you're criticising it!

I have? You should be able to find and post a few examples then.

[http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1402649610/92#92]
Datalife wrote on Jun 16^th, 2014 at 7:03pm:

Did you ever start a Christian thread to get your questions answered or you were happy to continue to run interference and deflections in the Muslim one?

People ain't silly you know.

Proof enough? Going to admit you're wrong? Grin

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And I am not criticising the thread, I applaud it, at last no excuse for yourself and Karnal to run interference in the ones dedicated atrocities in the name of the religion of peace.

I never "run interference", I point out that what Muslims are being condemned for occurs in other religions as well. Why do you have a problem with that? Do you believe there should be no comparison of Islam with say, Christianity? Grin

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You can post all your acts of buggerbuggery in the name of jebus here. Or will the apologist continue to run interference for Big Mo? I am betting they will, long term habits of apology, flexible outrage and moral relativism are hard to break.

Big Mo can stand on his own two feet. It's the Muslims who have committed no crime other than guilt by association, sharing a religious name with the committers of crime whom I'm concerned with, DL. You just want to hate everybody for everything it seems, right? Cheesy

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Christian Honour Killings Reply #34 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:19am Karnal wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 4:58pm: \|dev\|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 4:55pm: Do the crime, get the equal time! Why on earth would anyone believe that? These are Muslims we're talking about here. Oh, yeah, sorry, I suppose I should get "on message", then? Go with the groupthink?
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Re: Christian Honour Killings
Reply #35 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:24am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 11:03pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 3:36pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

ANy religion is no excuse for murder

So, where is the outrage against Christian so-called "honour" killings, SC?

Written off in one short sentence?

Appears stupendously absent, now doesn't it? Shocked

It's a crime.
Should be treated a such.
If there is a continued similar behaviour, it should be queried.

Sure you aren't trying to be an apologist for what seems to be continued similar behaviour by all those Christians out there? You wrote it off in one short sentence, effectively a shrug of the shoulders, SC. That is very much apologism I think! Tsk, tsk! Grin

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No excuse can be "I killed someone, and here it says why I can."

Religion and law are different

Yet here we have Christians doing exactly that, justifying their killing through scripture. Stop being an apologist for it, SC! Grin

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King FriYAY II Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2109	Re: Christian Honour Killings Reply #36 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:54am O M F G Crazies in the ME killing each other!!! I think this is more about the region than the religion.
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Christian Honour Killings Reply #37 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 11:10am King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:54am: O M F G Crazies in the ME killing each other!!! I think this is more about the region than the religion. I am sure Karnal will be along soon to disabuse you of that notion...
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Re: Christian Honour Killings
Reply #38 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 11:36am

King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:54am:

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Crazies in the ME killing each other!!!

I think this is more about the region than the religion.

WHAT? Have you gone out of your MIND? These are MOSLEMS we’re talking about here, not "Middle Easterners". This is spineless apologism of the most twisted, drug-addled, and even criminal imagination. When FD says he wants to detain and exile all who stand against Freeedom, this is just the sort of thing he’s talking about.

Moslems yes, but these people are even worse than them. At least we know exactly what the Moslems think. Types like this are just traitors.

I’d hang the lot, but that’s just me. Once, FD would have stepped in to protect their Freeedom, but as a defender of people’s civil liberties, FD has always been remarkably tolerant and forgiving.

Not anymore. Now we’re at war, FD agrees. These people deserve nothing more than a rope.

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Christian Honour Killings Reply #39 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 11:56am See, told you so...
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Christian Honour Killings Reply #40 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:03pm King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:54am: I think this is more about the region than the religion. heresy.
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Re: Christian Honour Killings
Reply #41 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:31pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 11:36am:

King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:54am:

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Crazies in the ME killing each other!!!

I think this is more about the region than the religion.

WHAT? Have you gone out of your MIND? These are MOSLEMS we’re talking about here, not "Middle Easterners". This is spineless apologism of the most twisted, drug-addled, and even criminal imagination. When FD says he wants to detain and exile all who stand against Freeedom, this is just the sort of thing he’s talking about.

Moslems yes, but these people are even worse than them. At least we know exactly what the Moslems think. Types like this are just traitors.

I’d hang the lot, but that’s just me. Once, FD would have stepped in to protect their Freeedom, but as a defender of people’s civil liberties, FD has always been remarkably tolerant and forgiving.

Not anymore. Now we’re at war, FD agrees. These people deserve nothing more than a rope.

I thought it was about Christians in Palestine.

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Christian Honour Killings Reply #42 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:51pm It's about Christians anywhere, undertaking so-called "Honour" Killings. The second example quoted links to stories from Canada and the US.
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Re: Christian Honour Killings
Reply #43 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 1:05pm

|dev|null wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:51pm:

It's about Christians anywhere, undertaking so-called "Honour" Killings. The second example quoted links to stories from Canada and the US.

The sooner people join together to mock ALL these religions and their made up garbage the better.

Anyone that thinks what they are doing has any "honour" attached should be shot with a ball of their own sh!t.

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Re: Christian Honour Killings
Reply #44 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 1:55pm

King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 11:36am:

King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:54am:

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Crazies in the ME killing each other!!!

I think this is more about the region than the religion.

WHAT? Have you gone out of your MIND? These are MOSLEMS we’re talking about here, not "Middle Easterners". This is spineless apologism of the most twisted, drug-addled, and even criminal imagination. When FD says he wants to detain and exile all who stand against Freeedom, this is just the sort of thing he’s talking about.

Moslems yes, but these people are even worse than them. At least we know exactly what the Moslems think. Types like this are just traitors.

I’d hang the lot, but that’s just me. Once, FD would have stepped in to protect their Freeedom, but as a defender of people’s civil liberties, FD has always been remarkably tolerant and forgiving.

Not anymore. Now we’re at war, FD agrees. These people deserve nothing more than a rope.

I thought it was about Christians in Palestine.

This is a thread about militant Islam and its threat to global security. You can take your cowardly apologist diversion tactics to your pathetic refugee support group. We won't cop your spineless Moslem apeasement here, you know.

If you want to distract the debate with insipid red herrings about Palestinian Christians, you're free to start a discussion in a new thread. Otherwise, grow some balls.

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