moses wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:


Thank you for demonstrating my point for me.  Must be nice being so unforgiving when you're a Christian, knowing you'll be jettisoned by the religion which inspired you to your acts of cruelty.   

There are always two sides to any story.

One side is based on truth substantiated by verifiable facts.

The other side is based on deceit and lies.

In the case of who or what is a Christian, the two sides of the claim have to be taken into account E.G.:

Are there any confirmable facts, which establish the criteria for being a Christian?

An undisputed fact would be the standards set by Christ in His teachings:

Mat 15:9  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Mar 7:7  Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Mat 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

So an unchallenged fact is that Christ certainly set a criteria for being a Christian.

What man does or thinks is beside the point. Christ set the rules they are supreme in Christian doctrine.

Now go to the other side of the dispute, where muslim apologists try to equate Christianity with their fraudulent statements.

The deceitful muslim apologist is using what is known as:

A priori knowledge of Christianity 


From the dictionary priori means:

Adjective: a priori
Involving deductive reasoning from a general principle to a necessary effect; not supported by fact

Adverb: a priori
Derived by logic, without observed fact


So there it is, not a single fact to support a muslim apologist's statement, simply fabricated lies / the logic of deceit to suit themselves, to obtain the necessary effect.

Karnal wrote: Quote:


I believe that Christian doctrine says a repenting sinner can be forgiven.

However you and the other apologists are not talking about repenting sinners are you?

You are trying to lie and say that someone who has willfully committed an atrocious sin in direct contravention of the Word of Christ, is a Christian simply because he says he is.

Truth and fact on one side.

Lies and deceit on the other (the one the muslim apologist takes) Karnal

moses wrote on Jun 20^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:



You contradict yourself, Moses but you always have.  As HB suggested, you don't believe in there being two sides to this story.  You believe only your own delusions.